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Old 02-08-2018, 04:24 PM
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I am having an issue with my '90 4.9. It will die without warning, sometimes at idle. Sometimes I have to crank it a couple minutes then it will start and be fine. Fuel pump is 3 months old
I have replaced fuel filter, ignition stator and module,fuel pressure regulator. None of that helped. I scanned for codes, and found the following:


33-EGR valve fault/not closing properly

49- 1-2 shift error

87- primary fuel pump circuit failure

95-secondary fuel pump circuit fault

The 33, and 95 codes have been there since I started driving it last November. The 49,and 87 are new

What am I looking at here, replace fuel pump again?
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Originally Posted by 1990_F150
I have replaced fuel filter, ignition stator and module
Just so we are on the same page, you disassembled the distributor and replaced the stator?
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I would say replace the pump again. Wouldn’t be the first new part to fail. Also the EGR not closing properly can cause a huge problem. Had a 96 explorer would die out when it reached op temp due to bad valve. Replaced everything from filters to pump all kinds of sensors and lastley the egr valve. And it solved my prob.
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Just so we are on the same page, you disassembled the distributor and replaced the stator?
Yes, i twas disassembled, only way it can be done
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I would say replace the pump again. Wouldn’t be the first new part to fail. Also the EGR not closing properly can cause a huge problem. Had a 96 explorer would die out when it reached op temp due to bad valve. Replaced everything from filters to pump all kinds of sensors and lastley the egr valve. And it solved my prob.
What your 96 Exploder did is exactly what my truck is doing, dies out when at op temp, crank it a minute then fires up. Let it cool a little then it is fine, till it warms back up and does it again
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Before I replaced anything more I would do some testing. When it quits and before it will restart, I would check the fuel pressure with a gauge.

It could also be an ignition problem. I don't see where you replaced the coil?
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Before I replaced anything more I would do some testing. When it quits and before it will restart, I would check the fuel pressure with a gauge.

It could also be an ignition problem. I don't see where you replaced the coil?
My bad, I replaced that yesterday, all ignition components are now new. I have no way to check fuel pressure when it quits, as I'm out doing deliveries (I run a newspaper motor route)
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This shows how:


(phone app link)


And I agree: stop throwing part$ at it, and diagnose the problem. If you can't, pay someone who can. It'll probably cost less & take less time. Do you have a Haynes manual & a digital multimeter (DMM)?


(phone app link)
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This shows how:


(phone app link)


And I agree: stop throwing part$ at it, and diagnose the problem. If you can't, pay someone who can. It'll probably cost less & take less time. Do you have a Haynes manual & a digital multimeter (DMM)?


(phone app link)
I have a Chilton manual, and I have a digital multimeter. I know how to check the pressure, but, when it has these episodes, it is while I am on the road, not practical to do anything then
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Yes, that first photo shows how to check fuel pressure on the road.

I think Chilton's makes a good tire chock. For diagnosis, repair, & maintenance, invest in a Haynes.


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