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Mason Simonet 10-17-2018 01:51 PM

Replacing the starter
 
I知 new here, I hope I知 posting this in the right spot.

I have a 1996 f150.

I ran into a problem while replacing my starter. my old starter has the 3 posts, the ground, the larger wire post and the smaller wire post. The new one only has a ground, the larger wire post and a flat peice that sticks out where the small wire post should be. The new starter is a remanufactured motorcraft. I just need to know if there痴 anything I can do, or do I need to find a another starter?

Heres some pics
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...52a812c3c.jpeg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...8522098e8.jpeg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...0a38121b3.jpeg

Greatly appreciated.

JUNK-MAN 10-17-2018 05:01 PM

Just clip off the old loop and replace it with
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...7df393344d.jpg
one of these...

Mason Simonet 10-17-2018 06:08 PM

Thanks, I値l take that pic into the parts store tomorrow and grab one.

Chris_1 10-17-2018 06:27 PM

And that's not a ground. Power goes to the big post furthest away from the starter. When you put power to the little spade it actuates the solenoid and power goes through the solenoid and into the starter windings through that wire on the inner big post (which is what I think you're calling a ground).
There's no ground wire in that picture; grounding is done through the body of the starter to the engine block. Just so you know.

Mason Simonet 10-17-2018 07:00 PM

Thanks for clarifying. I figured that wasn稚 the ground after looking at it again. Some guy off YouTube called it a ground, but we all know how reliable YouTube information is :rolleyes:

Steve83 10-18-2018 01:03 AM

Trace that smaller white wire back into the loom - someone has already butchered it. It should be Red.

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/...rtwire9296.jpg
(phone app link)

What exactly is the problem that makes you want to replace the starter? While it's off, you should also clean the ring terminal on the heavy Red cable:

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/...inchrelays.jpg
(phone app link)

...and the block ground:

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/...ail/g103v8.jpg
(phone app link)

Mason Simonet 10-18-2018 10:45 AM

The starter still works, but I知 replacing it because I知 getting a grinding noise every now and then. I did inspect the flywheel while The starter was off and from what I understand small rounded edges on the teeth is normal wear?

Thanks again.

Steve83 10-19-2018 11:35 AM

"...every now & then..." like while driving around? That's not a starter problem. While cranking? Still not likely a starter problem. But you should attempt to re-create the noise while listening with the hood up, or while you're underneath with a mechanic's stethoscope to pinpoint the source instead of just swapping the starter.

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/...tethoscope.jpg
(phone app link)

No one can tell you it's normal without seeing pics of it. I just pulled the original flywheel from a 250Kmi '95 5.8L, and I couldn't see any wear at all.

Mason Simonet 10-19-2018 12:37 PM

Most of the time I will hear grinding for a split second at the end of cranking, but sometimes I will turn the key and all I get is a grind/whine noise with no crank, then I値l try again and it will start up fine. It would be hard to re create the noise, it only happens like 3 - 4 times a month.

I would get a pic of the flywheel, but I already put back on the old starter because this is my daily. After looking at some other forum posts I think the amount of wear on mine would not cause any problems.

Steve83 10-19-2018 09:38 PM

That description sounds like a starter problem; like the solenoid is sticking, keeping the Bendix out too long.

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/...erexploded.jpg
(phone app link)


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