Question About 33" Tires
 

Hey everyone,
I have a 1992 4x4 that is at stock height that currently has 32"x10.5" BFG M/Ts on 15" stock rims (came this way when I bought it). The rims are in bad shape and I was thinking about getting some new rims/tires. Other than some rubbing on the control arm when nearing the steering lock points the current tires don't catch on the wheel arches or anything. I was thinking about getting 15x7 rims (offset of -6mm and 3.7" backspacing) with 33x10.5 BFG A/Ts. Any reason that this wouldn't work? Would there be any advantage to going with 15x8 rims? I was also planning to get some spacers to reduce the rubbing on the control arms.

Any thoughts or suggestions? Anyone have a similar set-up and some pics?

Thanks! :thumbsup:

I jave a set of 15x10 wheels with 33x12.50x15 good years on mine at stock height but i have the leveling pucks on the front. They only rub when they are hard over. I think mine are -10 offset

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From my other searching it sounds like there are variable stock ride heights. If its helpful here is a pic of my truck with the 32s on it.

She's a bit rough, but I'm working to get her back into shape.

It looks about the same as mine did when i got mine you should be able to clear 33s as long as you leave the front up with 2 inch pucks they are fairly cheap on ebay i think i gave less than $100 for mine. Here is a pic of mine before i leveled mine and one before i put the 33s on

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These are my 33x12.5 on the stock 7.5" rims. The rubbed like crazy in the radius arms

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With the new rims they didn't rub at all
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I ran 33x10.50 BFG AT's on stock suspension for a couple months before I put a leveling kit on. They rubbed a little on the radius arm at full lock but I wasn't too bad. Honestly though, the leveling kit was the best $50 I've ever spent on the truck. Changes the look completely.

What is the make and model on those rims? They look really sweet.:thumbsup:

Did any of your guys have any drivability issues after going to the 33s? I have 32s now so I don't imagine that there will be much different. My truck is an I6 so its not the most powerful beast out there. I just don't want to put some nice wheels/tires on it and have it drive like *****. At this point its basically on the road 95% of the time, so off-roading isn't really a concern.

Thanks

They are cragar rims. Not sure the model. I know they are older tho. The were chrome plated steel but i had them sand blasted and powder coated.

Don't buy 15x7 wheels, they are skinnier than stock. Me personally, I'd point steer you towards 15x10 wheels. Then it'll look like truckies!

After having looked at some other pics after posting the thread I completely agree with you.

Now I just need to decide whether to level the front with pucks or springs. I have been reading about some guys that use the moog front springs for an F250. Apparently they are a direct fit and give an extra ~2" height in the front. I have also looked at some Rough Country leveling springs (marketed to give a 1.5" level/lift). I hardly take the truck off-road, so I am thinking the F250 springs for better load tolerance since it sounds like the RC springs would be better for off-roading, but not as good for regular driving.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks again, BTW. You guys have been really helpful. :cool:

What rims do you have? Or what are the specs? Just got 33 12.5s today and they too rub pretty good on the radius arms.

To be honest I'm really not sure what the specs are. They are 15x10 but i don't know what the back spacing/offset is

I used the 250 springs in my truck. Fairly easy swap. Takes a few hours, and a good jack. They ride 100% better than old worn out springs.

i used the f250 springs too. really easy job

I used the moog cc844 f250 springs on mine 93 4x4 and I've used the rough country ones before on my old 2wd 96 I got rid of a few years ago. This was a daily driver and saw little to no off road use and I was fine with the RC springs. Either one will be better than old worn out ones. I was originally looking to get the rough country ones for the 93 but the moogs were almost half the price on amazon with free shipping so I decided to give them a shot. Go with the moogs if you wanna save money and are looking to buy the springs new.

This is my current 93 4x4 with moogs and 33s
https://www.f150forum.com/members/be...9144-90489.jpg

My old 96 2wd with RC
https://www.f150forum.com/members/be...996-f150-1.jpg

this was back when mine was leveled on 33s. since then i've added a body lift and 35s

[QUOTE=Beckula;3042303]I used the moog cc844 f250 springs on mine 93 4x4 and I've used the rough country ones before on my old 2wd 96 I got rid of a few years ago. This was a daily driver and saw little to no off road use and I was fine with the RC springs. Either one will be better than old worn out ones. I was originally looking to get the rough country ones for the 93 but the moogs were almost half the price on amazon with free shipping so I decided to give them a shot. Go with the moogs if you wanna save money and are looking to buy the springs new.

This is my current 93 4x4 with moogs and 33s
[IMG]https://www.f150forum.com/members/beckula-143153/albums/1993-

My old 96 2wd with RC
[IMG]https://www.f150forum.com/members/beckula-143153/albums/1996-


Any difference in street ride quality between the moogs and RCs?

beckula, is that ONLY a level? looks taller then just a level to me. looks great though.

The moogs feel stiffer than i remember the RCs being but I haven't had that truck in over 3 years. This could very well be a placebo effect because when I did my initial research the consensus was that any f250 springs will be stiffer than leveling springs designed for an f150 because they are designed that way. The 1993 is also an XLT 4x4 with sway bars so it rides completely different than my old XL. I will say that the 93 rides much better now than before but I changed the shocks at the same time so I can't really say how much is attributed to the springs.

Thanks. Yup, only a level on the 93. I took the stock chrome fender trim off and because the truck is black it gives the illusion that its higher...at least in photos.

For those that installed the moog844 F250 springs, did you have any trouble doing it without a spring compressor? Any thoughts or suggestions here? I have read a few accounts of people having trouble with the installation of the F250 springs on F150 4x4s. Anyone else heard about that?

Thanks :thumbsup:

If you unhook the shocks and take off the brake caliper , and have the truck far enough off the ground, you can force the axle beam down far enough to set the spring in place without a spring compressor. I didn' t need to use a spring compressor until I put the leveling spacers in with the f250 springs, you don't want to do that. Seriously don't try spacers and f250 springs.

I needed a spring compressor but I didn't unhook anything else. I needed it more to compress the new springs. If you have to go to the auto parts store I say rent it just in case. You'll get your money back whether you need it or not.

I'm not sure where you're planning on getting them but amazon still has them for $67.99 with free shipping.

i did it without one. no problems at all. i did unbolt the shocks too though

Go with the springs for sure. My trucks springs were old and saggy and when I put the leveling spacers in my truck still wasnt level. Looks better none the less, but still slightly dissapointing. I plan on upgrading to f250 front springs this summer when work picks up for me. Ill post the most recent picture I have but my suspension has settled since then so it is atleast another .5' inch lower in the front. these are only with 31in tires.

So, I'm looking at the Moog F250 springs on Rock Auto right now. There are two separate models, 844 and 844S. From the details provided, it looks like the 844S have an installed height of 13.00" compared to 12.75" for the regular 844 springs. Additionally, it looks like the 844S springs have a load rating of 1759lbs compared to 1557lbs for the 844 springs (super duty versus heavy duty).

Anybody used one over the other? Do you think that the super duty springs will make the ride too rough?

Thanks :thumbsup:

I did 250 springs and spacers but i cut my spacers to one inch in thickness

I used the 844s rides way nicer than old worn out springs

i just got the 844. i'm guessing that the difference wouldnt hardly be noticeable

When I was doing my research I read about the 844s being much stiffer than the 844. Someone with the 844s even stated that they had wished they'd gone with the 844. I eventually just decided that I didn't really want the stiffer ones because many reviews pointed to the 844 being really stiff already. Either will give you the level that you desire so just try to decide based on how stiff you want your ride. I can't speak at all for the 844s but I don't find the 844 to be as stiff as some were describing.

I used the 824 and they pretty solid. Brought the truck dead level. Doesnt seem like the 844 would have much give at all.

Take a look at 17 inch rims way more selection and tire sizes.

I am just about to order the Moog CC844 springs and I just had a thought. So, I have Skyjacker Nitro8000 shocks for 0-2" height all around (my truck still had the stock shocks on it 21 years after it rolled off the assembly line). Will this these have enough travel to accomodate the extra height from the Moog CC844 springs without wearing out prematurely?

Thanks! :thumbsup:

yes, i had stock shocks on my 150 for 2 years with a level and had no issues.

Thanks, man. I just ordered a set of the CC844 springs. I'll take before and after measurements and photos when I get the chance to install them.

I replaced my shocks with skyjacker hydro 8000s for 0-2in lift when I replaced the springs and have had zero travel issues so far. Good luck with the replacement.

Can anyone suggest a good spring compressor? I was planning to buy one for this job. Also, hopefully someone can recommend one that doesn't require air tools.

Thanks :thumbsup:

You can borrow one from auto zone/ oreiley for free. You'll just leave a deposit and get it back when you return it. Just make sure you ask for a coil spring compressor. FYI in case you aren't aware of this.

Sorry for the delay, but I was just able to take my, "after" pictures of the truck following installation of the Moog 844 springs and a few hundred miles of driving to let them settle. Installation was pretty easy and did not require a spring compressor. I just jacked my truck up on the frame, removed the J-clip that was holding the top of the spring in place, then loosened the top nut on the shock. After that the spring was only held in place by the keeper at its bottom. After removing that it just fell out (watch your toes). After placing the new shock and reinstalling the lower keeper, I jacked the knuckle up until I could refasten the top nut on the shock and the J-clip that holds the top of the spring in place. Its much easier than I thought. So far there is a really nice difference in ride quality and handling. Definitely worth the $68 on Amazon (free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime). While I am quite happy with them I did not get as much height as I expected, which may just be my truck given others' experiences. Here are my before and after measurements (from the top of the tire to the highest point on the arch of the wheel well). Unfortunately, I didn't think to just measure from the ground to the wheel well until I had already installed the springs.... Also, keep in mind that I installed these about two months ago and have put a few hundred miles on them, so they should have settled.

Before:
Front driver: 5.25"
Front passenger: 5.0"
Rear driver: 8.0"
Rear passenger: 8.5"

After:
Front driver: 6.25"
Front passenger: 6.25"
Rear driver: 8.25"
Rear passenger: 8.25"

I thought for a bit about putting leveling pucks in too, but then just figured that I would save my money and out it toward a 4" or 6" lift kit instead....maybe in the spring (no pun intended)....

I have also attached before and after pictures. The first one is the before and the second is the after.

Thanks to everyone for all their help! For anyone out there that is on the fence about swapping up for the Moog 844 springs, I would say go for it!

After a little more driving around I am thinking about adding a leveling kit to get closer to dead level. I have already added the Moog844 springs, but fell about 2" short of being fully level. I was hoping that I could get a little help with a couple of questions.

1.) I know that this may sound dumb, but given the quoted measurements above, I would just need a 2" leveling kit, right?

2.) Any suggestions on brands? I have not heard good things about the Daystar kit and Rough Country's kit is just longer springs. Can anyone recommend a block-type kit that they have had good experience with? ReadyLIFT?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks! :thumbsup:

Even though the springs only gave roughly 1" lift, if you add another 2" yet you won't be able to get the camber aligned without drop brackets.

this. you could go back to stock springs and get a leveling kit but you can't stack the 250 springs and leveling kit