Topic Sponsor
1987 - 1996 F150 Still running strong! Talk about your 8th and 9th generation Ford F150 trucks.

PCV venting to engine bay?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-08-2014, 02:47 PM
  #21  
I
 
tanman90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Jonesboro, AR
Posts: 827
Received 35 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Yes sir! My truck runs better with no smog stuff
Old 07-08-2014, 02:51 PM
  #22  
F150 Forum
 
Eco Tuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 241
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Remember. Do this only on an old engine where wear is not a concern. When you defeat the evacuation function of the PCV system, then your only venting pressure. All the damaging combustion byproducts then are left to accumulate and concentrate in the engine oil and crankcase. It is critical these compounds are evacuated, or removed as soon as they enter as blow-by before they have a chance to settle and collect:


If you doubt this, do an oil analysis after running with it defeated for 5 k miles.
Old 07-09-2014, 02:52 AM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Warlockk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 2,669
Received 112 Likes on 109 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by autocar

One more year and mine will no longer get emissions tested. That is when I will take the unit in question and make dreadful changes that many will consider "environmentally irresponsible". In other words, I will put it back together like it should have been in the first place.
What makes you think it will run better when you don't even know what it does?
Old 07-09-2014, 05:09 AM
  #24  
Member
 
autocar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 59
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Warlockk
What makes you think it will run better when you don't even know what it does?
Who says I don't know what it does? I know exactly what it does and I also know that it was a haphazard design in the first place and that is why it has failed. Now I can put it back to original but what is the point unless I take the engine apart and completely overhaul it? Or I might just install an old 2 stroke Detroit Diesel in it with a 5 speed main box and a 4 speed auxiliary. Why not? It is only money after all!

The pickup runs fine, it blows oil into the airbox. I come here looking for some answers and all I get is a pissing contest from all of you so why don't you just cram this forum up yer ***!

Good bye and enjoy all your project pickups as the continue to turn into rust because that is where every last one of them is headed. It is just a matter of time.
Old 07-09-2014, 06:19 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Forge-World-FORD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 0
Received 102 Likes on 99 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by autocar

Who says I don't know what it does? I know exactly what it does and I also know that it was a haphazard design in the first place and that is why it has failed. Now I can put it back to original but what is the point unless I take the engine apart and completely overhaul it? Or I might just install an old 2 stroke Detroit Diesel in it with a 5 speed main box and a 4 speed auxiliary. Why not? It is only money after all!

The pickup runs fine, it blows oil into the airbox. I come here looking for some answers and all I get is a pissing contest from all of you so why don't you just cram this forum up yer ***!

Good bye and enjoy all your project pickups as the continue to turn into rust because that is where every last one of them is headed. It is just a matter of time.
Good riddance? Who pissed in your cornflakes? You were a rude *** by hijacking this thread in the first place.
The following 2 users liked this post by Forge-World-FORD:
Eco Tuner (07-09-2014), Warlockk (07-09-2014)
Old 07-09-2014, 01:40 PM
  #26  
Senior Member
 
Warlockk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 2,669
Received 112 Likes on 109 Posts
Default

Seems to me he said he didn't know exactly what its supposed to do. If not well my mistake. The point is unless its leaking or stuck it doesn't do anything to performance. And its a pretty reliable system. Sorry if I prefer fixing cars to throwing parts in the trash. Like Forge said if you don't want real advise good riddance. You can go anywhere and find someone to blow smoke up your tailpipe and tell you how awesome you are for yanking parts off.

Last edited by Warlockk; 07-09-2014 at 01:43 PM.
Old 07-11-2014, 09:48 AM
  #27  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Chris_1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,811
Received 708 Likes on 671 Posts

Default

Back to the original poster's question - it's not a problem as long as the air is being filtered before it enters the engine. Make sure that the hole in the airbox for the hose is plugged so that you don't pull unfiltered air into the intake from the hole.
All in all, the hose is better, but not an emergency.
Many people will change it like yours is because they get oil migrating up the hose. This is usually caused by a plugged pcv valve or other problem (such as poor vacuum to the pcv system) which is allowing positive pressure to build in the crankcase system, or at least not enough negative pressure to overcome the bit of vacuum at the airbox.
To make sense of that remember that "positive crankcase ventilation" is designed to create 'negative crankcase pressure'.
Positive pressure in the crankcase system (which includes the oilpan, rocker and lifter galleys, timing case, etc) will cause oil to be pushed up past the rings and also out seals and gaskets. That's not good, that's what that system is designed to prevent.
A good working pcv system will help avoid oil consumption.
Old 07-11-2014, 10:02 AM
  #28  
F150 Forum
 
Eco Tuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 241
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Chris_1
Back to the original poster's question - it's not a problem as long as the air is being filtered before it enters the engine. Make sure that the hole in the airbox for the hose is plugged so that you don't pull unfiltered air into the intake from the hole.
All in all, the hose is better, but not an emergency.
Many people will change it like yours is because they get oil migrating up the hose. This is usually caused by a plugged pcv valve or other problem (such as poor vacuum to the pcv system) which is allowing positive pressure to build in the crankcase system, or at least not enough negative pressure to overcome the bit of vacuum at the airbox.
To make sense of that remember that "positive crankcase ventilation" is designed to create 'negative crankcase pressure'.
Positive pressure in the crankcase system (which includes the oilpan, rocker and lifter galleys, timing case, etc) will cause oil to be pushed up past the rings and also out seals and gaskets. That's not good, that's what that system is designed to prevent.
A good working pcv system will help avoid oil consumption.
Props! You are one of the few that actually understand most of the functions. If the PCV system is operating properly, the flow will almost always (except at WOT when reversion pulses cancel out the vacuum) be "fresh side in, foul side out" so back-flow isn't an issue. The video I posted is a great training piece as it covers all functions.

Good contribution!



Quick Reply: PCV venting to engine bay?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:18 AM.