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All gas stations in my area have "Up to 10% ethanol*" at every single pump. Some probably have more or a lot of water in there fuel, since my MPG's drop quite a bit in the winter with similar driving; well more careful driving.

unit505

Non-Ethanol gas does not cost anymore than Ethanol blends. We have two stations locally that have Non-Ethanol gasoline. One maintains an average of 10 cents a gallon cheaper and one maintains their price at what ever the lowest ethanol blend is in town. These stations refused to go ethanol when it was mandated. Not sure how they manage to keep selling it, but the lines are always long at the pumps. Just looked it up at pure-gas.org and there are 287 ethanol free gas stations in Louisiana.

unit505

Sean, look it up at the pure-gas.org, you've got 5 ethanol free stations in Orlando.

dr_bowtie

Not true.... Alcohol/Methanol is an OXYGENATED fuel which burns much cleaner than Gas... even though to can use more it still putting LESS tailpipe emissions out...

Gas = 12:1 ratio

E85 = 8:1 ratio

Methanol/Alcohol = 4:1 ratio

the power output and cleaner burn far outway the extra consumption....

I've run it in regular vehicles in mixed ratios and NOT lost any mileage....

TheCollector

the information ive been getting/finding seems to point to what i said earlyer.. I could be misinformed. I will say this I got a carbbed vehicle that i have no choice but to run 10% mix in and its been sitting in storage for 3 months not I put some stabil and ehtnol treatment in and ran it some but still worried.

03Fordzilla

I know my 2011 ford ranger has a big slash through the E85 symbol on my gas cap. Says in my manual if I use E85 my powertrain warranty will be voided. That has to mean something when my truck is less than 2 years old(assembled 9/11) and ford says dont use it. I dont like the stuff personnally. Get 22mpg on the highway with regular gas, or pay 40 cents less and average 14mpg on the highway? Plus risk gunking the fuel system up.

I say use at your own risk. Dont reccommend it with the older vehicles, especially the ones in question here. I do know my 04 crown vic hates the 10% mix we have here by me. Worse gas mileage + less performance. Feels like my 4.6 died and turned into a 4.2 since they changed the fuel over here. (no disrespect to the 4.2, just making a general point)

Andrew95

of course they dont want you to run a fuel type that it wasnt designed to run on....Its a C.Y.A. label.

There is 1 gas station in my town that has ethanol free, and i fill up there whenever im in the area.

And yes your mpg will go down during the winter. They actually change the blend during the colder months.

unit505

There is an E85 conversion kit which has to be installed in order to run E85 on non-E85 vehicles, if they are compatible. Changes the fuel injector pulses, pressure, basically all fuel injector operations. It's basically a Flex Fuel Conversion. You can't just add E85 to a non-flex fuel vehicle. It don't work.

Warlockk

As usual Dr Bowtie knows his stuff. Methanol burns better than gasoline. Also it is a cleaner liquid to begin with. Alcohol will evaporate cleanly with no residue. This is the reason it wears rubber hoses and gasket. No lubricant is left behind. It is not corrosive. It does however dry surfaces as it evaporate like any alcohol. Again it will take higher compression and more timing advance than regular gasoline so to take full advantage you need to tune your engine. Finally why is it everytine new vehicle technology evolves people have to say its a tree hugger enviro scam. It's a simple equation, if you burn fuel more completely you get more efficiency. This creates more power and less waste. The more waste you create the less efficient your fuel/motor. And a little history, alcohol has been around as a fuel just as long as gasoline. Gasoline became more popular because it was a cheap waste product created in the manufacture of kerosene. It was considered worthless until Ford mass produced his car to run on gasoline. Before that it was dumped in fields. Alcohol was often used by bootlegers to outrun cops. It's becoming popular now mainly because it is becoming cheaper for gasoline companies to make e85 than to sell straight gas. Of course they wont lower the price as they have never been known to give up profit potential. However they don't have to raise the price as much. Notice the fuel prices have stabilized somewhat as compared to 2001-2003 when prices raised by $2.50. Corn, sugar,sugar beat, soy etc can be grown in most of the world as opposed to the limited availability of oil.

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My MPGs don't go down in winter.