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Old 11-17-2011, 11:30 PM
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Actually that part isn't used on these years. Read it more closely.
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Reason I never liked Haynes manuals, they cover over too much at once and you run into confusion like this.
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You have the book and the truck, the book tells you what part is what. The confusion comes when people incorrectly identify parts. It was a good guess coming from someone unfamiliar with this setup.
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One thing that I did not see anyone touch on is on the master cyl cap is a float switch. If your fluid level is low the brake system will turn on your red brake warning light also it will disarm your ABS system turning on the amber ABS light.First make sure the level is up to the full line if not add fluid with the key in the off position reinstall the cap tight start the truck and see if the lights are out.If the fluid is low or the float switch is bad both light will come on.
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Yes that was mentioned about 14 posts ago
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Originally Posted by 91straight6beater
The ABS light is bad, the parking brake light may be fixable easily. I think I misunderstood your issues, but hey, maybe not.

Actually, If you read this before you take it in, you might save a little cash. Or maybe I'm totally off. But its worth checkin first.

This assumes your brakes work. Your truck stops safely. You aren't gonna kill me at an intersection tomorrow. Or perhaps, you have another car to drive until you resolve this. If this is all really confusing, better to take Sean's advice and have a mechanic look at it before you die.

If you are sure you are getting stopping power, or can let your truck sit until you are sure, try the following...

I had the brake light a few years back, and then again this summer. The foot pedal parking brake connects to a small plunger above the assembly that turns the light on and off on your dash when you use the parking brake. Regardless of whether or not your brakes are functioning. I have an "ABS" light that tells me my brakes are unsafe, It has mostly meant low fluid, topping off every few years has resolved that light. My "Parking Brake" lamp is seperate. But I believe it has gone on for multiple reasons, I cant really keep track. I drive a Ford and lights come and go. Know before you go!!!! Doesn't mean this lamp situation is true for you. Your truck may differ. Do not drive until you are clear on your situation.

Couple things to look at while you aren't running stoplights in your truck and are driving a safer vehicle:

1- Park on a level piece of ground where your truck won't roll away.

2- with motor running set your brake. The brake indicator light is now on, on your dash, right?

3- Release the parking brake. From what you have said, it sounds like your parking brake is releasing, but your light stays on. Truck can drive without noticeable brake restriction. Don't drive it, I'm just askin. Am I on the right track?

If yes... follow along.

If no, ignore me.

If sometimes, play along, maybe we are close to a cheap fix for a problem unrelated to brake hydraulics.

4- with brake indicator on, and brake released, open up your door, get out, and get on your knees where you can reach and see the parking brake pedal assembly from floor to dash and get a view of the dash light as well.

(you guys are dirty, just cuz I told him to get on his knees, doesn't mean I'm yankin his chain)

5- ok, brake is released right? Lamp is on right? Pull on the foot pedal and move it upward toward the dash as if you were continuing to release it further.

My truck, has a small plastic plunger above the lever portion of the pedal. Toward the underside of the dash. If the pedal doesn't release fully, even though the brakes are released, the light stays on until that plunger is engaged. If you see the little white plastic plunger, but your lever won't hit it, just push it in with your finger to see what happens to your dash indicator light. Or pull the pedal up until it engages the plunger.

Are we gettin anywhere yet?

If none of this applies to your parking brake assembly, discontinue now. 2nd warning. If we are talking the same language, continue reading.

6- If we are moving forward, then we just need to know why your brakes are loose but pedal isn't hitting the plunger to extinguish the dash light. 2 options I know of.

6a- the spring on your parking brake assembly is ... falling off, has no rebound left... or missing. OR

6b- the nut on your parking brake assembly needs to be tightened. (If your undercarriage nuts and bolts look like mine, pray for 6a)

7- Since you are on the ground at the drivers door, scooch on down under your truck toward the rear drivers tire along the outer side of the frame. You should see your parking brake cable connecting to 2 rear brake cables by some sort of bolt and metal T that transmits one cable to two brake lines. Do you have that? I do. And mine has a spring that extends from the loose end of the single bolt and cable, to the welded on brake cable flange-a-majiggy. When my spring falls off, or is otherwise not tight like your little sisters hoo-ha, my parking brake pedal does not release high enough to engage the light extinguishing plunger under the dash. I would check to see if you have a spring, and if it is properly aligned to put release pressure on your pedal. Pressure from the spring when brake is released = pressure on the lever = engage the light bulb off plunger. Hopefully problem solved.

8- If yours is assembled this way, but that doesn't solve your problem, try tightening the nut. This can be a serious pain in the ***. But if all other brake functions work, you got time right?

I'm gonna pause till you take a look or respond, cause otherwise, I may dig an even deeper hole. But seriously... I've had this happen several times. It was always the spring. I haven't lost the spring yet, but I can't imagine it couldn't be diagnosed and replaced for less than 3 minutes and 3 bucks if thats the issue. The bolt could be the same cost, or less, if it turns. Otherwise 3 bucks and 3 weeks.

Let me know what you find.
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Originally Posted by 91straight6beater
The ABS light is bad, the parking brake light may be fixable easily. I think I misunderstood your issues, but hey, maybe not.

Actually, If you read this before you take it in, you might save a little cash. Or maybe I'm totally off. But its worth checkin first.

This assumes your brakes work. Your truck stops safely. You aren't gonna kill me at an intersection tomorrow. Or perhaps, you have another car to drive until you resolve this. If this is all really confusing, better to take Sean's advice and have a mechanic look at it before you die.

If you are sure you are getting stopping power, or can let your truck sit until you are sure, try the following...

I had the brake light a few years back, and then again this summer. The foot pedal parking brake connects to a small plunger above the assembly that turns the light on and off on your dash when you use the parking brake. Regardless of whether or not your brakes are functioning. I have an "ABS" light that tells me my brakes are unsafe, It has mostly meant low fluid, topping off every few years has resolved that light. My "Parking Brake" lamp is seperate. But I believe it has gone on for multiple reasons, I cant really keep track. I drive a Ford and lights come and go. Know before you go!!!! Doesn't mean this lamp situation is true for you. Your truck may differ. Do not drive until you are clear on your situation.

Couple things to look at while you aren't running stoplights in your truck and are driving a safer vehicle:

1- Park on a level piece of ground where your truck won't roll away.

2- with motor running set your brake. The brake indicator light is now on, on your dash, right?

3- Release the parking brake. From what you have said, it sounds like your parking brake is releasing, but your light stays on. Truck can drive without noticeable brake restriction. Don't drive it, I'm just askin. Am I on the right track?

If yes... follow along.

If no, ignore me.

If sometimes, play along, maybe we are close to a cheap fix for a problem unrelated to brake hydraulics.

4- with brake indicator on, and brake released, open up your door, get out, and get on your knees where you can reach and see the parking brake pedal assembly from floor to dash and get a view of the dash light as well.

(you guys are dirty, just cuz I told him to get on his knees, doesn't mean I'm yankin his chain)

5- ok, brake is released right? Lamp is on right? Pull on the foot pedal and move it upward toward the dash as if you were continuing to release it further.

My truck, has a small plastic plunger above the lever portion of the pedal. Toward the underside of the dash. If the pedal doesn't release fully, even though the brakes are released, the light stays on until that plunger is engaged. If you see the little white plastic plunger, but your lever won't hit it, just push it in with your finger to see what happens to your dash indicator light. Or pull the pedal up until it engages the plunger.

Are we gettin anywhere yet?

If none of this applies to your parking brake assembly, discontinue now. 2nd warning. If we are talking the same language, continue reading.

6- If we are moving forward, then we just need to know why your brakes are loose but pedal isn't hitting the plunger to extinguish the dash light. 2 options I know of.

6a- the spring on your parking brake assembly is ... falling off, has no rebound left... or missing. OR

6b- the nut on your parking brake assembly needs to be tightened. (If your undercarriage nuts and bolts look like mine, pray for 6a)

7- Since you are on the ground at the drivers door, scooch on down under your truck toward the rear drivers tire along the outer side of the frame. You should see your parking brake cable connecting to 2 rear brake cables by some sort of bolt and metal T that transmits one cable to two brake lines. Do you have that? I do. And mine has a spring that extends from the loose end of the single bolt and cable, to the welded on brake cable flange-a-majiggy. When my spring falls off, or is otherwise not tight like your little sisters hoo-ha, my parking brake pedal does not release high enough to engage the light extinguishing plunger under the dash. I would check to see if you have a spring, and if it is properly aligned to put release pressure on your pedal. Pressure from the spring when brake is released = pressure on the lever = engage the light bulb off plunger. Hopefully problem solved.

8- If yours is assembled this way, but that doesn't solve your problem, try tightening the nut. This can be a serious pain in the ***. But if all other brake functions work, you got time right?

I'm gonna pause till you take a look or respond, cause otherwise, I may dig an even deeper hole. But seriously... I've had this happen several times. It was always the spring. I haven't lost the spring yet, but I can't imagine it couldn't be diagnosed and replaced for less than 3 minutes and 3 bucks if thats the issue. The bolt could be the same cost, or less, if it turns. Otherwise 3 bucks and 3 weeks.

Let me know what you find.
I'm disappointed.

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