A bit of info for those looking to build 300+hp 5.0L/302s
#142
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I'll be the first Hater then....N I C E score! A free engine and parts cache and a refund of the purchase price at the Recycler.
Last edited by stxlt; 04-20-2018 at 08:18 AM. Reason: more snide comments....
#143
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Hopefully I can provide some clarification.
Trucks started using roller cams in '92. The roller camshafts in '92 and '93 were the same until they upgraded the camshaft in '94.
Regarding the van, the '93 van has a roller cam and it is speed density. It also uses the same intake as the truck.
Hope this helps.
Trucks started using roller cams in '92. The roller camshafts in '92 and '93 were the same until they upgraded the camshaft in '94.
Regarding the van, the '93 van has a roller cam and it is speed density. It also uses the same intake as the truck.
Hope this helps.
#145
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Copious thanks to qdeezie, BLDTruth, and SaltEater for the experienced help and advice. I enjoy a challenge but don't have deep pockets for trial-and-error R&D. BDC1, you are asking my questions and clued me to another source for parts - I had overlooked the E-series! Thanks!
My plan is to trace my way through qdeezie's 302/5.0L 300+ hp write-up using a 35-512-8 cam w/1-5-4... firing order (unless Comp has an updated grind). I intend to use 1 of my 302 intakes, corresponding ECM, and SD set-up. Someday, the lower engine will see the machine shop and quality replacement parts. The '92 donor truck's transmission is getting a few parts replaced to cope with under 350 hp around the 1st of May (should be fun) and will be installed behind the current engine for break-in and troubleshooting while the donor's engine gets freshened and worked.
So, while creeping every forum, Craigslist, and Facebook Marketplace since July of 2017, yesterday I stumbled upon a set of still-assembled, 2000 Mountaineer, GT40p 4 dash heads for $165 about 2 hours away. Should I grab the E-manifolds, valve covers, and accessory brackets? Besides a 3-angle valve job, new springs, lifters, pushrods, existing stamped rockers, and new hardware, are there any additional head suggestions? Should I bother doing lower intake manifold-to-intake port matching?
It got fun explaining how e7 heads suck, how GT40p heads and a cam swap offers better power and torque, and rationalizing against AFR Trick Flows with the Keeper of the Purse Strings last night! I quoted Sir qdeezie and enjoyed the conversation with Sweetie. She understands more than the basics and is no Rook to cars; she rebuilt a Buick bolt-by-bolt for her high skool ride.
Thanks again for forthcoming answers and a terrifically informative thread!
My plan is to trace my way through qdeezie's 302/5.0L 300+ hp write-up using a 35-512-8 cam w/1-5-4... firing order (unless Comp has an updated grind). I intend to use 1 of my 302 intakes, corresponding ECM, and SD set-up. Someday, the lower engine will see the machine shop and quality replacement parts. The '92 donor truck's transmission is getting a few parts replaced to cope with under 350 hp around the 1st of May (should be fun) and will be installed behind the current engine for break-in and troubleshooting while the donor's engine gets freshened and worked.
So, while creeping every forum, Craigslist, and Facebook Marketplace since July of 2017, yesterday I stumbled upon a set of still-assembled, 2000 Mountaineer, GT40p 4 dash heads for $165 about 2 hours away. Should I grab the E-manifolds, valve covers, and accessory brackets? Besides a 3-angle valve job, new springs, lifters, pushrods, existing stamped rockers, and new hardware, are there any additional head suggestions? Should I bother doing lower intake manifold-to-intake port matching?
It got fun explaining how e7 heads suck, how GT40p heads and a cam swap offers better power and torque, and rationalizing against AFR Trick Flows with the Keeper of the Purse Strings last night! I quoted Sir qdeezie and enjoyed the conversation with Sweetie. She understands more than the basics and is no Rook to cars; she rebuilt a Buick bolt-by-bolt for her high skool ride.
Thanks again for forthcoming answers and a terrifically informative thread!
Last edited by stxlt; 04-20-2018 at 11:11 AM. Reason: grammar and flow
#146
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For the AOD, this might sound like a strange suggestion, but the Mustang crowd has a really nice upgrade (I can't think of it for the life of me at the moment) for the AOD that I think would be sufficient for your truck. If I think of it, I will circle back and let you know.
It amazes me the resources that are available for the 302 and the platforms that offer parts interchangeability - Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Mustangs, Exploders and Mountaineers, E-series vans, and for some parts exclusive of engine and transmission, F250 & up vehicles.
Last edited by stxlt; 04-20-2018 at 11:02 AM. Reason: more questions and comments
#147
qdeezie you've helped answer some of my other questions, so i hope you don't mind me asking another one in this thread. Valve Seals - are the valve seals supposed to slide up and down on the valve stem or are they supposed to stay seated on the head? I've having trouble finding specific info on the 302, but know various motors use one or the other.
#148
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qdeezie you've helped answer some of my other questions, so i hope you don't mind me asking another one in this thread. Valve Seals - are the valve seals supposed to slide up and down on the valve stem or are they supposed to stay seated on the head? I've having trouble finding specific info on the 302, but know various motors use one or the other.
#149
Thanks for the quick reply! Interesting. I took the heads to an engine shop to have new valves, guides, seals, etc installed. Long story short, after putting everything back together I had a coolant leak from the headgasket, so I had to tear the engine back down. I noticed after teardown that some of the seals seem to have slid up the valve stem, no longer seated on the head. Machine shop says that is normal, so I'm trying to gather all the info I can to figure out if I have a problem. So it sounds like you would say yes, I do have a problem?
#150
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Thread Starter
Thanks for the quick reply! Interesting. I took the heads to an engine shop to have new valves, guides, seals, etc installed. Long story short, after putting everything back together I had a coolant leak from the headgasket, so I had to tear the engine back down. I noticed after teardown that some of the seals seem to have slid up the valve stem, no longer seated on the head. Machine shop says that is normal, so I'm trying to gather all the info I can to figure out if I have a problem. So it sounds like you would say yes, I do have a problem?