WD H/System vs new hitch
07-10-2013, 07:07 AM
#11
Senior Member
Thanks Biggles. But now I want to scream. The sticker says combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed 1205 lbs. And when I asked the salesman about that, he said that was just the occupants of the vehicle and anything that we had in the bed of the truck. He said the tongue weight was not included because that was only a factor when adding up the GCWR.
Thank you everyone for your input. I'm definitely going to get the WDH instead after your feedback. But I guess we will start looking at lighter trailers.
Thank you everyone for your input. I'm definitely going to get the WDH instead after your feedback. But I guess we will start looking at lighter trailers.
My FX4 has a max payload sticker of 1450 lbs.
But I had a spray in bed liner added , and mud flaps and a tonneau cover. Those items also bring down your available payload by about 100lbs. We ended up with a TT with a dry weight of 4800lbs , GVWR 6250 lbs. With just my wife and I, we are about 250lbs under the trucks GVWR in normal load conditions when pulling the TT.
07-10-2013, 08:24 AM
#12
Senior Member
AFAIK Ford does include a full tank of gas when calculating payload.
The brochure payloads are MAX payloads for that configuration of engine/wheelbase/GVWR. I've never seen a sticker payload to match them; it's always lower because of options, trim level, whatever.
There exists somewhere a list of option weights that the dealer can use to calculate the door jamb payload of a truck on order.
For the Superduties, the brochure does not include engine type. The published MAX payloads are for the 6.2L V8 gasser. The diesel is a 500-600# option.
The brochure payloads are MAX payloads for that configuration of engine/wheelbase/GVWR. I've never seen a sticker payload to match them; it's always lower because of options, trim level, whatever.
There exists somewhere a list of option weights that the dealer can use to calculate the door jamb payload of a truck on order.
For the Superduties, the brochure does not include engine type. The published MAX payloads are for the 6.2L V8 gasser. The diesel is a 500-600# option.
07-10-2013, 03:33 PM
#13
AFAIK Ford does include a full tank of gas when calculating payload.
The brochure payloads are MAX payloads for that configuration of engine/wheelbase/GVWR. I've never seen a sticker payload to match them; it's always lower because of options, trim level, whatever.
There exists somewhere a list of option weights that the dealer can use to calculate the door jamb payload of a truck on order.
For the Superduties, the brochure does not include engine type. The published MAX payloads are for the 6.2L V8 gasser. The diesel is a 500-600# option.
The brochure payloads are MAX payloads for that configuration of engine/wheelbase/GVWR. I've never seen a sticker payload to match them; it's always lower because of options, trim level, whatever.
There exists somewhere a list of option weights that the dealer can use to calculate the door jamb payload of a truck on order.
For the Superduties, the brochure does not include engine type. The published MAX payloads are for the 6.2L V8 gasser. The diesel is a 500-600# option.
07-10-2013, 05:04 PM
#14
Senior Member
I'm running into the issue right now as most of the TT I want will make me over my payload, which I was shocked to see how low it was on an XLT.
I am assuming the off-road package and 20's killed my payload. Ford rates my payload at a whopping....drum roll....1272 lbs.
Maybe I should hit a scale and see if it is indeed underrated.
I am assuming the off-road package and 20's killed my payload. Ford rates my payload at a whopping....drum roll....1272 lbs.
Maybe I should hit a scale and see if it is indeed underrated.
07-10-2013, 08:06 PM
#17
Senior Member
My total GAWR is 7650#, but my GVWR is only 7500#. So 7500# is the number I have to go with.
07-10-2013, 08:28 PM
#18
My trucks empty weight=5150lbs
Payload= 1900lbs, sticker says 1700lbs
07-10-2013, 08:39 PM
#19
You can make your truck handle the weight better but you cannot take more on legally. Not all f150's are equal, there are a lot of shock and spring options throughout the range. I've noticed that even though some trucks have high payload numbers they can not safely handle the weight very well, and vise versa.
IMO if you are planning on hauling and a lot get the 6.5' bed to be able to better distribute the weight to the front axles. The shorter the cab and the longer the bed the better.
07-10-2013, 10:23 PM
#20
The Sunset Trail is a nice trailer. I was looking at the same one and ended up going with the 33BD(7868#empty). I tow with a 2010 F150 Lariat Screw longbox 5.4L 3.55. I added Firestone Riderite airbags and will upgrade to LT tires in the next month. It tows just fine with the Equilizer WD hitch. Minimal sway unless you get the speed over 70 or the winds are over 30 knots, plenty of power and plenty of stopping power. I usually tow around 62 to 65 because my trailer tires are ST tires limited to 65mph and the MPG improves about 20% slowing down 10mph. I'm not sure if the 32BH has the widestance axles, but the 33BD does and I think it helps prevent sway. Good luck in your decision and Happy Camping!
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