TT Twin 6 Volt Batteries
#21
What are the amp hours of the 6 volt?
Two batteries in series does not increase amp hours because you double the resistance.
Two batteries in parallel more than double the RC or amp hours because you lower the total resistance.
I.E. a group 31 725cca in has 180 min of reserve capacity
2 in series has 24 volts but still only 180min of RC
2 in parallel have 420 min. IRC
Just looked it up a group 31 6volt only has 190 min of RC. So they will not last much longer than even one group 31 12 volt battery
Two batteries in series does not increase amp hours because you double the resistance.
Two batteries in parallel more than double the RC or amp hours because you lower the total resistance.
I.E. a group 31 725cca in has 180 min of reserve capacity
2 in series has 24 volts but still only 180min of RC
2 in parallel have 420 min. IRC
Just looked it up a group 31 6volt only has 190 min of RC. So they will not last much longer than even one group 31 12 volt battery
#22
Senior Member
My automatic battery chargers didn't like it. And my old manual battery charger wouldn't tell me the state of charge - plus it would overcharge the batteries if you didn't pay close attention. So I used a good 6-volt automatic charger that worked good but took a long time to completely charge both batteries.
As far as 6v vs. 12v, all I can say is my battery life is better with the 6's. Typically I'd get about 3 years out of the 12's before they started to lose duration. In 2010 when we bought our current trailer I did the 6v/T105 swap and just changed them for the first time last summer, so they went a little over 5 years. This time I went with AGM's. Expensive but almost zero gassing and related corrosion
#23
Thanks. My question was in earnest, I figured the charger wouldn't care. The converter in my trailer doesn't seem to know the difference.
As far as 6v vs. 12v, all I can say is my battery life is better with the 6's. Typically I'd get about 3 years out of the 12's before they started to lose duration. In 2010 when we bought our current trailer I did the 6v/T105 swap and just changed them for the first time last summer, so they went a little over 5 years. This time I went with AGM's. Expensive but almost zero gassing and related corrosion
As far as 6v vs. 12v, all I can say is my battery life is better with the 6's. Typically I'd get about 3 years out of the 12's before they started to lose duration. In 2010 when we bought our current trailer I did the 6v/T105 swap and just changed them for the first time last summer, so they went a little over 5 years. This time I went with AGM's. Expensive but almost zero gassing and related corrosion
My Group 30 12V Trojan is still going strong at 5 years. Not sure I buy into the durability claim on 6V.
#24
Senior Member
I am a heavy duty truck electrical system trainer and work for Delco Remy, manufacturer of starters and alternators. The increase in reserve capacity is why we recommend more batteries with a lower CCA instead of fewer with a higher CCA. This way there is enough cranking power and reserve capacity
A quick search came up with this
https://www.pacificpowerbatteries.co...AQ/dcfaq4.html
Note the two batteries in parallel have double the CCA and more than double the RC. The two batteries in series only yields double the voltage with no increase in either CCA or RC
Last edited by SKBORDERS; 06-08-2016 at 11:43 PM.
#25
I understand most of what you're saying, however I don't see anywhere stating the RC more than doubles when paralleled.
I also for the most part understand the difference between CCA and RC. CCA weren't a factor in my decision as these batteries are for my camper and I don't need CCA, AH were most important to me. In my research, the largest 12V batteries I could fit were Group 29 which had RC25-210 which when doubled in parallel would have been 420. For the same cost, I was able to get two 6V in series with RC25-475.
Anywho, definitely not stating I know anywhere near as much as you do about this stuff. Just like to have a friendly conversation. Thanks for responding.
I also for the most part understand the difference between CCA and RC. CCA weren't a factor in my decision as these batteries are for my camper and I don't need CCA, AH were most important to me. In my research, the largest 12V batteries I could fit were Group 29 which had RC25-210 which when doubled in parallel would have been 420. For the same cost, I was able to get two 6V in series with RC25-475.
Anywho, definitely not stating I know anywhere near as much as you do about this stuff. Just like to have a friendly conversation. Thanks for responding.
#26
Senior Member
I understand most of what you're saying, however I don't see anywhere stating the RC more than doubles when paralleled.
I also for the most part understand the difference between CCA and RC. CCA weren't a factor in my decision as these batteries are for my camper and I don't need CCA, AH were most important to me. In my research, the largest 12V batteries I could fit were Group 29 which had RC25-210 which when doubled in parallel would have been 420. For the same cost, I was able to get two 6V in series with RC25-475.
Anywho, definitely not stating I know anywhere near as much as you do about this stuff. Just like to have a friendly conversation. Thanks for responding.
I also for the most part understand the difference between CCA and RC. CCA weren't a factor in my decision as these batteries are for my camper and I don't need CCA, AH were most important to me. In my research, the largest 12V batteries I could fit were Group 29 which had RC25-210 which when doubled in parallel would have been 420. For the same cost, I was able to get two 6V in series with RC25-475.
Anywho, definitely not stating I know anywhere near as much as you do about this stuff. Just like to have a friendly conversation. Thanks for responding.
Here is how it was explained to me:
"...the test for RC is a 25 amp discharge off a fully charged battery at 80 degrees and measuring in minutes how long it takes that battery to fall to 10.5v. If I take that same 25 amp discharge and spread it over 2 batteries each battery is supplying 12.5 amps to the load and because your discharging at a lower rate it takes the bank of two longer to discharge (approximately 400 minutes for 2 180RC batteries or 636 minutes for 3-180 minute batteries). It doesn't matter how high the discharge the science remains the same. Batteries share loads and the more batteries you add, the shallower the individual batteries in the pack are "cycled". "
This comes from a guy who sits on the council that sets the standards for the Heavy Duty battery industry. Ah is RC divided by 2.4
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