Gene K

Buddy gets 15-17 out of 2013 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 6.2 3.73
He gets 18-22 mpg out of a 2016 F150 Screw 4x4 5.0 3.55
Pulling the same 8500 lb enclosed car trailer he said the gas mileage isn't appreciably different. 9-11 mpg range I believe.

The gas 6.2 does a lot better with the 4.30 in my opinion but it will cost you 1-2 mpg

mass-hole

Hope everyone is ok.

I vote for an HD payload F150. unless you were exceeding your tongue weight, the HD Payload should give you plenty of payload capacity. The 2016+ supercrews I have seen on here are in the 2300-2400 lb range. That combined with the new ecoboost and 10 speed and you will have a solid tow rig.

smokeywren

With the right options there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a SuperDuty pickup as a daily driver/commuter car. And you can find them in stock with normal desirable options at even the small Ford dealers.


The F-150 with heavy duty payload pkg (HDPP) is a good choice, but dealers don't stock them, so you must plan ahead and order yours.


In addition to HDPP, you need to order the max tow pkg and towing mirrors. I can't imagine why, but Ford stopped including the tow mirrors as part of the max tow pkg, So be sure to order the towing mirrors.


Here is the HDPP option:


2017 F-150 Heavy-Duty Payload Package:
The Heavy-Duty Payload Package is available on F-150 XL, XLT, and LARIAT. Increases GVWR to 7600 lbs. on XL and 7850 lbs. on XLT and LARIAT for improved payload and towing.
Includes:


• 3.73 Electronic-locking rear-axle
• 9.75" gearset
• 36 Gallon Fuel tank
• LT245/70R17E BSW all-terrain tires (A/T) (XL only)
• LT275/65R18C OWL all-terrain tires (A/T) (XLT and LARIAT)
• Upgraded springs and auxiliary transmission oil cooler
• XL: 17" Silver Steel Heavy-Duty Payload Package wheels
• XLT/LARIAT: 18" Sliver Aluminum Heavy-Duty Payload Package wheels

Not available with 2.7L V6 EcoBoost® engine.
Requires Trailer TowPackage or Max Trailer Tow Package.

You want the max trailer tow pkg, which includes the integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC) and requires the 3.5L EcoBoost engine.


Sorry, Charlie, but if you want the luxury of the Platinum or Limited trim pkg, on an F-150, it's not available with HDPP. So you need to order a SuperDuty. You can upgrade the F-150 Lariat trim to be a really nice tow vehicle, but not with the Platinum or Limited trim. However, a SuperDuty with any trim pkg can tow your 7,000-pound to 9,000-pound trailer with no problems.

acdii

I gave up trying to find the "right" tow vehicle and found something that had a little more capacity than what I had. Towing is important, but more important is daily driving, and if I don't like the truck, then I wont care if it could tow a battleship. When I spend 3 hours a day in it, it had better be comfortable and not require a lot of fighting the wheel or ride like the Superduty would have been (at least the used F250 would have). So far my first drive to work, on a miserable day, was good. Will be much more enjoyable when it isnt foggy, on the verge of freezing, and sunshine. At least it was better than yesterday.

Magnetic157

Just curious, when you say the TT is 35', is just the box 35' or are you measuring from bumper to hitch?

acdii

Shouldn't matter much if its tip to tail, or the box size, 35' is too long for the F150. If it is just the box, then it will be even longer.

Magnetic157

The only reason I'm asking is because I've been in the market for a TT and some of the 28' models are actually 32-33' from rear to hitch.

With the 157" WB I've read the rule of thumb is to divide by 5 - so by that theory I shouldn't be considering anything over 31.5' bumper to hitch?

acdii

Check out the Coleman series of trailers, I have the BH274 and it comes in at 28' and pulls very nice with a 145" WB truck, with the 157" WB you should be able to pull 30' OK, but I wouldn't advise anything longer, only because you lack the mass for a longer trailer.

Magnetic157

Thanks - I'll have to check it out. I saw this one I liked, the UVW is only 6,273 with a hitch weight of 645lbs (10.2%) - at least according to the specs - seems lite to me TBH. The CCC is up to 3,172 lbs which is a lot however for our purposes I don't think we'd ever max that outnever (wouldn't be towing with full tanks, and typically only do weekend trips). Even if we did, if the specs are right we'd be way under our payload and hitch rating.

My biggest concern was the overall length being over 32'

http://www.forestriverinc.com/produc...elID=2247#Main

I don't want to get off topic too far but this has been a good read for me.

acdii

Rule I used when shopping, take the GCWR and subtract the GVWR of the truck to get the GVWR of the trailer, then take 13% of that for the tongue weight, and subtract that from your payload. On my truck that limited me to 7600 pounds, and then I forgot to subtract the family(oops), so I was 400 over GVWR of the truck. I also limited it to under 30' length mainly due to having a short bed, and knowing that a short tow vehicle and long trailer can add up to a sway monster.

I can say that once I got the WDH setup correctly the truck towed the trailer very nicely, very little sway on a very windy day, no push pull from semi's, and no bouncy bouncy either. When I first brought it home, the dealer did not setup the hitch and it was a handful, bounced like crazy and sway was horrible, and I thought I made a huge error, but once I got it home and did the measurements myself I found the hitch was way off on both height and angle. I also added one sway bar to it.