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Old 09-06-2013, 11:34 AM
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Just remember that if your tires weigh 50 lb more than stock, you just lost 200lb of payload and if the lift components weigh 100lb, there goes another 100...on some of these trucks you could end up with less payload than a Ram...
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Originally Posted by 11screw50
Just remember that if your tires weigh 50 lb more than stock, you just lost 200lb of payload and if the lift components weigh 100lb, there goes another 100...on some of these trucks you could end up with less payload than a Ram...
Tires and suspension components don't count against payload as the don't put weight directly on the springs or axles.
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Originally Posted by RES4CUE
Tires and suspension components don't count against payload as the don't put weight directly on the springs or axles.
They count against GVWR and payload is simply GVWR - weight of the truck itself so essentially, they do count against payload.
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Originally Posted by 11screw50
They count against GVWR and payload is simply GVWR - weight of the truck itself so essentially, they do count against payload.
Yes, the GVWR and payload should refer to the capabilities of the truck as a whole: brakes, drive train, suspension, axles ...

But I guess it's different with GAWR.

For example my trailer has a 3500# Dexter axle, but the manufacturer claims the GAWR is 3619# with the 119# difference from the weight of the tires and wheels which shouldn't impact on the axle. Pretty tricky ...

Not sure how Ford determines its posted GAWRs, but apparently heavier wheels and tires don't hurt the axle bearings and such. At least my trailer manufacturer doesn't think so. And, legally of course, you can't change the posted GAWR.
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get a drop down hitch youll be fine
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Originally Posted by RES4CUE
Tires and suspension components don't count against payload as the don't put weight directly on the springs or axles.



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