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Old 11-23-2015, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dmill
Thanks for info. Kinda disappointing. So based on the numbers above, I should get a TT 5k# or less? Is gvwr and dry weight the same? How does cargo weight play in this? I did find a small TT with a gvwr of 3850 it said it had a cargo weight of 2400#s. Thanks
Or don't pack your truck full of stuff. I tow a 7000# trailer using his same advice. All my numbers are under the limit. If I have my water tank full my payload is maxed due the water tank being at the front of my trailer.

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Old 11-23-2015, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dmill
So based on the numbers above, I should get a TT 5k# or less?

No, that 5k max trailer weight is a guess based on my experience with my F-150 and TT. For you, don't guess, but


--- load the pickup with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing, (including people, pets, toolbox with tools, jack and jack base, campfire wood, etc.)


---drive to a truckstop that has a CAT scale,


---fill up with gas,


---and weigh the wet and loaded tow vehicle.


---Subtract the weight of the tow vehicle from the GVWR of the tow vehicle and the answer is the max hitch weight you can have without being overloaded.


--- Divide that max hitch weight by 0.125 and the answer is the max GVWR of any TT you want to buy.


(It will probably be less than 5,000 pounds if you haul all the same weight I haul in mine when towing.)


Is gvwr and dry weight the same?

No, not even close. GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) is the maximum weight of the wet and loaded trailer. Dry weight is a trailer with no options and nothing in it that's not standard equipment. No propane, water, drinks, clothes in the closet, linens on the bed or in the bathroom, food in the pantry or reefer, nothing. Nobody tows a dry RV trailer. Dry weight is a useless number. Ignore it and go by the GVWR of the trailer.

How does cargo weight play in this?
Dry weight plus cargo weight (carrying capacity) should equal GVWR. Cargo weight includes propane in the propane tank(s), water in the fresh water tank, sewage in the black-water tank, dish and shower water in the grey water tank, any options the trailer has such as spare tire and wheel, AC, microwave, water heater, awning, etc.


I did find a small TT with a gvwr of 3850 it said it had a cargo weight of 2400#s.

3,850 minus 2,400 = dry trailer weight of only 1,450 pounds. So that is either a very tiny trailer or else it's a very flimsy trailer. Many pop-up camping trailers with AC and hot water and reefer have GVWR around 3,850.

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Old 11-24-2015, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dmill
I've never towed, but would like to one day.. Possibly a smaller TT. What are some limitations in towing with a 2.7L engine with a 3.55 locking RR axle. Is it even do-able? Thanks.
Your door jamb sticker has the information you need. Just remember that the dry weights you see on trailers is just a start and you should look at the trailer's GVWR for a more realistic number and don't exceed the numbers on your door jamb. The dry weight of the trailer plus the cargo weight of the trailer should be close to the GVWR of the trailer.
BTW, hybrid trailers have a very good weight to space ratio. Hybrids are the ones with the fold out bedroom on each end.

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