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Old 11-10-2015, 10:29 PM
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I've never towed, but would like to one day.. Possibly a smaller TT. What are some limitations in towing with a 2.7L engine with a 3.55 locking RR axle. Is it even do-able? Thanks.
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No worries. You can pull a lot with the 2.7 Eco. 6,000 pounds should be very doable.
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Im towing 7000lbs right now. the limit on the 2.7 is the payload ( the hitch weight and cargo in the truck)

Power wise..... no worries at all. When you do tow you'll be shocked at how the 2.7 performs.
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Originally Posted by Jason_Larsen
Im towing 7000lbs right now. the limit on the 2.7 is the payload ( the hitch weight and cargo in the truck)

Power wise..... no worries at all. When you do tow you'll be shocked at how the 2.7 performs.
Jason,
Curious what your payload is.
Lariat's are usually pretty heavy.
Did you get the 2.7's payload option?
Thanks ...
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My payload is 1733. CC lariat with 6.5' bed, but I did get the payload package

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Originally Posted by brulaz
Jason,
Curious what your payload is.
Lariat's are usually pretty heavy.
Did you get the 2.7's payload option?
Thanks ...

using the road side scale I'm at 5300 with my 2 year old and me (210#) in it. My payload sticker is 16__ lbs. I do not have the 2.7 payload package. my GVWR is 6500.
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Originally Posted by Jason_Larsen
Im towing 7000lbs right now. the limit on the 2.7 is the payload ( the hitch weight and cargo in the truck)

Power wise..... no worries at all. When you do tow you'll be shocked at how the 2.7 performs.
What are you towing?
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Originally Posted by dmill
What are you towing?
2015 Cougar half ton 26bhswe

5800 dry weight but 6900 ready to camp.
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Originally Posted by dmill
I've never towed, but would like to one day.. Possibly a smaller TT. What are some limitations in towing with a 2.7L engine with a 3.55 locking RR axle.

Ford says your GCWR is 12,800 and your tow rating (GCWR minus weight of the empty truck) is 7,600. So when your truck with driver and full tank of gas but nothing else weighs (12,800 - 7,600 =) 5,200, then your max trailer weight would could be as high as 7,600. But that's a cruel joke, because nobody tows with nothing in the truck but a driver, so your real-world tow rating is a lot less than 7,600. And the tow rating is probably not your limiter. Unused payload capacity for hitch weight is probably your limiter.


My tow rating is 8,400, but I'm overloaded over my payload capacity by 100 pounds with a TT that grosses only 4,870 pounds when wet and loaded on the road. Real world unused payload capacity is GVWR minus weight of the wet and loaded truck, minus hitch weight of the wet and loaded trailer. For my 4x2 rig, that's 7,100 GVWR minus 6,560 truck weight minus 640 pounds hitch weight = 7,200, or overloaded by 100 pounds. Hitch weight is trailer tongue weight plus the weight of the shank and head of your weight-distributing hitch. Average hitch weight for tandem-axle trailers is about 12.5% to 13% of wet and loaded trailer weight.

So engine power and torque is not your limiter. Without being overloaded, you can probably pull a lot heavier trailer than you can haul the hitch weight of that wet and loaded trailer .


Is it even do-able?

Yes, you can tow a smaller TT without being overloaded. But you cannot haul much weight in the pickup, and you cannot tow a trailer with much wet and loaded weight, probably around 5,000 pounds. Very few TT are available with GVWR less than 5,000 pounds, so you might need to consider a well-equipped pop-up camping trailer instead of a TT. You can find new well-equipped camping trailers with GVWR less than 4,000 pounds, with some around 3,500 pounds. At 13% tongue weight, that's 455 to 520 pounds tongue weight
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Originally Posted by smokeywren
Ford says your GCWR is 12,800 and your tow rating (GCWR minus weight of the empty truck) is 7,600. So when your truck with driver and full tank of gas but nothing else weighs (12,800 - 7,600 =) 5,200, then your max trailer weight would could be as high as 7,600. But that's a cruel joke, because nobody tows with nothing in the truck but a driver, so your real-world tow rating is a lot less than 7,600. And the tow rating is probably not your limiter. Unused payload capacity for hitch weight is probably your limiter.


My tow rating is 8,400, but I'm overloaded over my payload capacity by 100 pounds with a TT that grosses only 4,870 pounds when wet and loaded on the road. Real world unused payload capacity is GVWR minus weight of the wet and loaded truck, minus hitch weight of the wet and loaded trailer. For my 4x2 rig, that's 7,100 GVWR minus 6,560 truck weight minus 640 pounds hitch weight = 7,200, or overloaded by 100 pounds. Hitch weight is trailer tongue weight plus the weight of the shank and head of your weight-distributing hitch. Average hitch weight for tandem-axle trailers is about 12.5% to 13% of wet and loaded trailer weight.

So engine power and torque is not your limiter. Without being overloaded, you can probably pull a lot heavier trailer than you can haul the hitch weight of that wet and loaded trailer .

Yes, you can tow a smaller TT without being overloaded. But you cannot haul much weight in the pickup, and you cannot tow a trailer with much wet and loaded weight, probably around 5,000 pounds. Very few TT are available with GVWR less than 5,000 pounds, so you might need to consider a well-equipped pop-up camping trailer instead of a TT. You can find new well-equipped camping trailers with GVWR less than 4,000 pounds, with some around 3,500 pounds. At 13% tongue weight, that's 455 to 520 pounds tongue weight
Thanks for info. Kinda disappointing. So based on the numbers above, I should get a TT 5k# or less? Is gvwr and dry weight the same? How does cargo weight play in this? I did find a small TT with a gvwr of 3850 it said it had a cargo weight of 2400#s. Thanks


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