Floridaguy80

2013 super crew, 3,5 Eco, 2 wheel drive, 145" wheelbase, axle ratio is 3.31. Per the owners manual, pages 269-274 I can't find my truck with the above information. They have 4x4 info and longer wheelbase info but nothing like I specified above. Any help?

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

You don't say what engine you have, but i guess it's the 3.5L EcoBoost because I see a 5.0L with the 3.31 rear end in the Owner's Manual, but no EcoBoost listed with the 3.31.

However, take a look in the 2013 Sales Brochure in the link below:

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo...3e.pdf#page268


Butt....you can completely forget about the published "Max Payload Weight Ratings" and the "Max Loaded Trailer Weight Ratings" (you probably won't be able to comfortably tow anything CLOSE to the max trailer weight published - probably only be able to tow a trailer 1500 to 2000 lbs less than what they publish!!!).

About the only limit of importance to you there is the GCWR - the max your loaded truck and loaded trailer together can weigh.

The REAL numbers you need to look for are on the stickers on your driver's door - your truck's GVWR, and your truck's payload capacity (on the tire sticker - it will say "max weight of occupants and cargo can never exceed xxxx lbs).

Also, get down on the ground under your rear bumper and look up toward the hitch - you should see a sticker with the weight limits for your hitch with and without a weight distribution hitch.

Let us know what engine you have and what those weight ratings are on your stickers.

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Floridaguy80

Sorry, its the 3,5 Eco. I just updated the first post.
The Tire sticker says, combined weight of occupants and cargo is max 1649lbs.
The other sticker says GVWR is 7100lbs. I couldnt find a sticker under the hitch.

So my truck empty weighs 5100lbs. The total amount the truck can tow with people, cargo and trailer is an additional 2000lbs? Is that right??

Eric0508

This is true if your truck actually weighs 5100lbs. If you have weighed it at the cat scale and its actually 5100 lbs you can subtract that from your GVWR to get 2000lbs. Otherwise you should trust your loading sticker which says 1659lbs.

Floridaguy80

It's 5100+\- WTF kind of truck can only tow 2000lbs? Hell, I weigh 250lbs, so now im down to 1750lbs..
Something is not adding up here

badercubed

GVWR is for the truck weight and its payload. So, if your yellow sticker says 1,659 for payload, that is the truck off the lot. That means passengers, tool boxes, tonneau covers, and so on subtract from that amount. This does not tie DIRECTLY into towing, but is related. What that will give you in the max tongue rating of a trailer that you can have. Take the example below...

1,659 pounds of payload
less 400 pounds of passengers
less 600 pounds of cargo
results in 659 pounds worth of tongue weight you can have.

That 659 pounds will typically limit the size of your trailer compared to what the truck can actually tow.

Eric0508

+1 Good example. So if you figure 10-15% tongue weight on a given trailer, ~650lb tongue weight equates to roughly 4500-6500lb trailer weight.

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

NO!!

The payload capacity of 1649 lbs is how much weight you can load into the truck before you're at your max weight - the GVWR.

Subtract the payload capacity from your GVWR to get your empty weight - empty means nothing in the truck except for a full tank of gas.

Empty weight of your truck is 7100 - 1649 = 5451 lbs.

Again, that 5451 is as delivered, completely empty, except with a full tank of gas.

badercubed's example is good. As he states, anything that weighs down on the truck will be counted as payload - people and cargo in the cab and bed, as well as the tongue weight of the trailer. If you use a WDH (weight distributing hitch), they usually weigh 75 to 100 lbs as well.

I believe the GCWR (Combined weight rating - truck and trailer together) is 14,900.

It's probably going to be pretty easy to load your truck to its GVWR of 7100 with people, cargo, WDH, and tongue weight.

If you are up to 7100, subtract that from 14,900 and you can see the max weight you have remaining for trailer weight is 7800 lbs.

However, the 10% to 15% of loaded trailer weight on the tongue will probably require a trailer of a lot less weight to keep from exceeding GVWR.

One other thing to be sure of is the capability of your hitch. If it's just a basic hitch it may only be rated for 5000/500 (max trailer weight of 5000, max tongue weight of 500).

I'm not sure that with a 3.31 rear end you have the trailer tow package.

Without the trailer tow pkg you're limited to 5000/500.

With a trailer tow pkg you hitch should be rated 5000/500 without a WDH, and 10,500/1050 with a WDH.

Max tow pkg is 5000/500, 11,500/1150.

If it's an aftermarket hitch you'll have to find out who makes it to get their specs.

Good luck, but with 1649 lbs of payload capacity you've got a nicely capable truck. If you keep the load in the truck down (carry people in the truck, luggage etc. in the trailer) then you should be able to tow a good size trailer.

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sportster07

A half ton. Plus you have 3.31's.

From my experiences, people grossly overestimate the capabilities of a half ton truck.

If you need to to tow heavy, buy a bigger truck. You get bigger breaks as well as a much heavier, stronger truck which is an underrated but great thing when towing something pretty heavy.

Dirttracker18

First the OP and you are misunderstanding the numbers and not reading the post above you.

Second it is brakes, not breaks. Break is when something fails as in "you may break your truck if you overload it."

Lastly you do not need a big truck for heavy loads. You need to be smart and safe and work within the limits of your tow vehicle.