Switch to Super Duty?
#11
Senior Member
I went through the same process. It was agonizing. I went from my ecobeast (2012 F150HD) to my current 2016 F350 PSD. Right from the get go, the ride is stiff and rough. Add about 800 lbs in the bed and it softens quite nicely (luckily my generator, hitch and other misc stuff make that up). Apart from that I've notice little different when not towing. When towing; well it's a BEAST. Once you haul with an oil burner you'll not look back.
My slice would be, why look F250? If you are going to make the jump; do it. Go in with both feet and go F350.
My slice would be, why look F250? If you are going to make the jump; do it. Go in with both feet and go F350.
#12
Roger that. A 250 will have a payload of 2000 lb. This is before you add people, cargo and tongue weight. A 350 will anywhere between 500 and 1500 lbs more, depending on which GVWR package you get. In your case, a 250 would be plenty of truck. The 350 just gives you room for a bigger trailer down the road. Diesel all the way.
#13
Senior Member
I was presuming a 350 SRW with my numbers. Obviously your dually is considerably higher. My only concerns with a GVWR> 11,500# is the potential commercial implications in certain states. Out left here, they still haven't figured out how to categorize the bigger towed RV combos. On one hand I hear if its a private use RV then no worries. Then I hear horror stories of drivers being stopped and held at weigh stations due to inadequate licencing and/or weight apportionment tags.Welcome to the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by PerryB
I was presuming a 350 SRW with my numbers. Obviously your dually is considerably higher. My only concerns with a GVWR> 11,500# is the potential commercial implications in certain states. Out left here, they still haven't figured out how to categorize the bigger towed RV combos. On one hand I hear if its a private use RV then no worries. Then I hear horror stories of drivers being stopped and held at weigh stations due to inadequate licencing and/or weight apportionment tags.Welcome to the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
#15
Senior Member
Agreed, I personally would not look at a F250, I would go straight to a F350 and never look back. The cost difference is very minor and the payload increase is worth it.
#17
I have had three F150 ecoboosts and four SD's. I have had this new '17 SD for less than two months and already have another F150 on order. The SD rides rough. The steering is awful (go search for my posts in the '17 SD section). Fuel economy around town on the SD is 3-4 mpg worse than the ecoboost. Unloaded hwy the ecoboost wins. Towing the SD winds by 10-25% depending upon the load. The ecoboosts will outrun the SD diesel in a heartbeat.
I sold my '16 F150 ecoboost because in NM with 112 degrees the truck's IAT2 got to 180 degrees. The PCM pulled timing by 3 degrees so I was way low on power. My previous '13 ecoboost had a Wagner CAC that dropped air temps tremendously but they didn't have one available for the '16. Wagner is coming out with their CAC in April so it will be the first thing done to the new truck.
If you are going to tow all of the time or very heavy then get the SD, otherwise keep your F150 or consider a 158" WB with the 3.5 EB. Not only do you get a longer WB for stability, but more power and a 10 speed tranny designed to keep you in the powerband when towing.
If you upgrade to a SD get the F350. You can get a 10k GVWR version (same truck just different sticker) then in most states you can tow up to 16k lbs without a CDL
I sold my '16 F150 ecoboost because in NM with 112 degrees the truck's IAT2 got to 180 degrees. The PCM pulled timing by 3 degrees so I was way low on power. My previous '13 ecoboost had a Wagner CAC that dropped air temps tremendously but they didn't have one available for the '16. Wagner is coming out with their CAC in April so it will be the first thing done to the new truck.
If you are going to tow all of the time or very heavy then get the SD, otherwise keep your F150 or consider a 158" WB with the 3.5 EB. Not only do you get a longer WB for stability, but more power and a 10 speed tranny designed to keep you in the powerband when towing.
If you upgrade to a SD get the F350. You can get a 10k GVWR version (same truck just different sticker) then in most states you can tow up to 16k lbs without a CDL
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#18
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** to your ealier point, i think there is a HUGE ford dealer in the LA area, i'd see if they have a 157" truck with the 3.5 (USED) and ask to take it for a test/tow spin. then see if bigger frame/engine combo will work for you.
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