Should I get the ecoboost or F250?
#12
Senior Member
Originally Posted by 2002silverex
I will have me, my wife and my daughter in the truck...and my 80 pound golden retreiver. As far as gear? idk... the normal, whatever that is.
I guess my question was is the f150 with hd and payload more than enough to tow a 35' camper. Which it appears it isnt. Will it tow it, yes it probably will...but as much as I will be towing it appears the f250 is the only way to go.
Thanks for your help.
I guess my question was is the f150 with hd and payload more than enough to tow a 35' camper. Which it appears it isnt. Will it tow it, yes it probably will...but as much as I will be towing it appears the f250 is the only way to go.
Thanks for your help.
#13
You're going to have to take the time and energy to run the numbers, or risk making a financially stupid decision based on gut instinct. No two ways about it. If the extra 10-20K of initial invoice and maintenance differential doesn't mean much to you, just get the diesel and be done with it. If it does mean something to you, find out exactly what camper you want, how much it weighs, and run the payload numbers.
Ford adapted to more stringent payload/towing third party regulations a few years ahead of schedule (starting with 2013 models, independent testing is an industry standard). If Ford says the payload is 2000 pounds, pushing it to the limits is no problem at all.
10 years ago if you pushed the listed capacities with consistency you'd be crazy and irresponsible imo. Ford and everyone in the industry pulled the numbers straight from the depths of their collective anus's (anii?). Now, not so.
Are you going camping in the mountains? The ecoboost barely loses at 8K feet. The 6.2 feels like a completely different engine up there. It loses about 25% of its' power, and from experience you notice it- and more importantly, the tranny notices it in tow mode.
Empty braking distance and emergency maneuvering is absolutely terrible in the heavy duty trucks, and the F150 handles well for a live rear axle. Check out this video to get an idea of what the unloaded Super Duty does in an emergency:
Ford adapted to more stringent payload/towing third party regulations a few years ahead of schedule (starting with 2013 models, independent testing is an industry standard). If Ford says the payload is 2000 pounds, pushing it to the limits is no problem at all.
10 years ago if you pushed the listed capacities with consistency you'd be crazy and irresponsible imo. Ford and everyone in the industry pulled the numbers straight from the depths of their collective anus's (anii?). Now, not so.
Are you going camping in the mountains? The ecoboost barely loses at 8K feet. The 6.2 feels like a completely different engine up there. It loses about 25% of its' power, and from experience you notice it- and more importantly, the tranny notices it in tow mode.
Empty braking distance and emergency maneuvering is absolutely terrible in the heavy duty trucks, and the F150 handles well for a live rear axle. Check out this video to get an idea of what the unloaded Super Duty does in an emergency:
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#14
Where have you heard that Ford adopted these standards ahead of time (the new towing standards)? I though it was Toyota who did that.
#15
Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have the ecoboost over the 250 for its daily driver aspect looks coolness of the twin turbo ect... I just don't want to have to limit what I buy for a camper based on my
Trucks capabilities. I guess we will have to decide exactly which camper we want and go from
There.
The one we are pretty sure on is a 2012 prime time tracer. It's 34.0 feet long, 10'10" high. Hitch is 687 pounds. It's shipped dry weight is 6750 pounds.
Respectively with people in the truck and gear I'm sure you can add another thousand pounds to that?
Trucks capabilities. I guess we will have to decide exactly which camper we want and go from
There.
The one we are pretty sure on is a 2012 prime time tracer. It's 34.0 feet long, 10'10" high. Hitch is 687 pounds. It's shipped dry weight is 6750 pounds.
Respectively with people in the truck and gear I'm sure you can add another thousand pounds to that?
#16
Senior Member
Originally Posted by 2002silverex
Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have the ecoboost over the 250 for its daily driver aspect looks coolness of the twin turbo ect... I just don't want to have to limit what I buy for a camper based on my
Trucks capabilities. I guess we will have to decide exactly which camper we want and go from
There.
The one we are pretty sure on is a 2012 prime time tracer. It's 34.0 feet long, 10'10" high. Hitch is 687 pounds. It's shipped dry weight is 6750 pounds.
Respectively with people in the truck and gear I'm sure you can add another thousand pounds to that?
Trucks capabilities. I guess we will have to decide exactly which camper we want and go from
There.
The one we are pretty sure on is a 2012 prime time tracer. It's 34.0 feet long, 10'10" high. Hitch is 687 pounds. It's shipped dry weight is 6750 pounds.
Respectively with people in the truck and gear I'm sure you can add another thousand pounds to that?
#17
Id like to go the f150 route for the 95% of time that im not towing as the truck is also my DD. We'll see when i pick out a tt and see the exact specs.
Thanks for your guys help!
Is there a programmer out for the ecoboost yet? One specifically for towing?
Thanks for your guys help!
Is there a programmer out for the ecoboost yet? One specifically for towing?
#18
Senior Member
I'm gonna tell you something else... I Wouldn't get a 35ft TT if I was planning on moving this thing every weekend. This has nothing to do with the truck, payload tow rating etc... It is just a lllllooooooonnnnnnnnggggggggg trailer that is not very practical when it's time to park.
Just my opinion based on my experience
As for the trailer you are looking for, since it has a 687lbs tongue weight you can tow this with any F150 with MaxTow. So for sure if you get the HD payload you'll be ok.
Just my opinion based on my experience
As for the trailer you are looking for, since it has a 687lbs tongue weight you can tow this with any F150 with MaxTow. So for sure if you get the HD payload you'll be ok.
#19
Pulled the trigger yesterday on 2012 keystone outback 312bh. 7500 pounds dry 35'6"
I will be towing with my work truck until I get a new ecoboost or f250. Work truck is a 2011 gmc 1ton dually. Will tow fine but not practical as there is no back seat... I will see how that truck tows it and decide if I need a 250 or ecoboost. Thank you all for the help!
I will be towing with my work truck until I get a new ecoboost or f250. Work truck is a 2011 gmc 1ton dually. Will tow fine but not practical as there is no back seat... I will see how that truck tows it and decide if I need a 250 or ecoboost. Thank you all for the help!
#20
Pulled the trigger yesterday on 2012 keystone outback 312bh. 7500 pounds dry 35'6"
I will be towing with my work truck until I get a new ecoboost or f250. Work truck is a 2011 gmc 1ton dually. Will tow fine but not practical as there is no back seat... I will see how that truck tows it and decide if I need a 250 or ecoboost. Thank you all for the help!
I will be towing with my work truck until I get a new ecoboost or f250. Work truck is a 2011 gmc 1ton dually. Will tow fine but not practical as there is no back seat... I will see how that truck tows it and decide if I need a 250 or ecoboost. Thank you all for the help!