Lux194

Sorry, I'm not sure why it squeezed some of the words together.

king nothing

The MPG difference between 3.31 and 3.55 is nothing.

2talltechie

Ford says online 3.15 can tow 10,700 lbs and you think it will be overloaded at 5000lbs? How can you believe anything from Ford then?

Haven't yet seen in writing such a 500lbs increase in payload with Max tow. What is the URL? Most actual yellow payload stickers online I've seen show little improvement from last year. Wondering where is that 700lbs that was supposed to be passed on to the consumer?

2talltechie

Agree.

With the 2015 Lariat 3.5L, 3.15 is the standard axle. Jumps to 3.55 with Max tow. So, a little bigger jump.

king nothing

There are other factors at play here than just the 10,700 tow rating. Do some research into how tongue weight and payload affect how much you can actually tow. Fords tow ratings and advertising are horribly misleading, and border on blatantly deceptive in my opinion

king nothing

Sorry, i was responding to someone else. Should have quoted him

AndrewM

That has changed in 2015. No longer get a payload increase with Max Tow. Only HD Payload packages.

smokeywren

You have to dig deeper into "tow rating". It tells you the max weight of a trailer you can PULL without overheating anything in the drivetrain. But the fine print says you should never exceed the GVWR of the tow vehicle. And the tow rating ignores the GVWR (payload capacity). In order to pull a 10,000-pound TT with an F-150 without exceeding the GVWR, the F-150 would have to have no options other than engine and rear axle ratio, and nothing in it but a skinny driver. Nobody tows a TT under those conditions.


My tow rating is 8,400 pounds, but I'm overloaded (over the 7,100 pounds GVWR, payload rating 1,366) with my TT that grosses 4,870 pounds when wet and loaded on the road, (4,220 trailer axle weight plus 650 tongue weight). But my Lariat has options and Sweetheart and two puppies and some tools and a bed rug plus a shell cap. Typical load for two old retired folks traveling cross country to visit grandkids.


Look at the Specs of that 2015 F-150 SuperCrew 4x2 EcoBoost that has 10,700 pounds tow rating. The GCWR is 15,900. Tow rating = GCWR minus truck weight. So in order to have a tow rating of 10,700, the wet and loaded truck must weigh not more than 5,200 pounds. But the CAT scale will prove that your wet and loaded truck will weigh a lot more than 5,200 pounds. Thus the tow rating is bogus. Plus it ignores the payload capacity for people, cargo, and hitch weight. Your real limiter is payload capacity, not tow rating.


The 2015 F-150 has more payload capacity than my 2012, so maybe it can haul a heavier trailer without exceeding the GVWR of the F-150. But I wouldn't count on it until you have a real wet and loaded truck, a real wet and loaded trailer, and a real CAT scale.


Don't blame Ford. All the manufacturers have the same inflated tow ratings, and none of them consider payload capacity when setting the tow rating. The new SAE certification of the tow rating is useless because it too ignores payload capacity, so it's no better than the old tow ratings.


Ford doesn't mention the increased payload capacity anywhere I've seen. But compare the GVWR and payload capacity of two identical new F-150s in a dealer's inventory, one with the regular tow pkg, and one with max tow, and you'll see that 500 pounds difference (at least up thru 2014 model).

atwowheelguy

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/

No Max Tow payload increase indicated here as in years past. Only 2.7 Ecoboost Payload package, and HD Payload packages with 17" wheels (XL) and 18" wheels (XLT & Lariat).

Feathermerchant

So if I read that chart right, They lowered the GVW on a 4X4 SCab with HD payload and long wheelbase to 7,850 vs mine at 8200. The payload is still more though. 2,770 vs 2,221 for mine.