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Old 07-20-2014, 10:50 AM   #1
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Hey guys,
I'm in the look out for a new truck and would really like to get either the 5.0 or Eco.
I currently haule:
toy hauler 3500lbs (max is 6500) with my Side by side RzR S 1500lbs in it.
Truck bed carries my Brute Force 750 800lbs

Total hauling is max 6500lbs
In the truck is 800lb quad, my wife and I, little dog along with some gear.

Can the 5.0 or Eco handle this?
Also we live in northern BC so lots of hills

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Get the Eco with Max Tow and HD Payload pkg and you will have no worries.
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Payload will be your biggest concern. Figure out what your payload requirements are and don't buy a truck that won't handle it.
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welcome to the forum - its a great place to get answers and ideas!!

I agree with the payload comment.

You and your wife maybe 300 lbs, plus doggy and you're up to 350 lbs, and add in some gear and you're easily up to 400 lbs.

400 plus the 800 lb quad equals 1200 lbs.

Add a 100 lb WDH, and a minimal tongue weight of 750, and you're up to 2050 lbs of weight the truck needs to carry - and I don't think even the Max Tow with HD will give you that!! That's 1 ton, and definitely Super Duty territory.

The WDH will redistribute some of the tongue weight aft to the trailer axles, but that will probably only be 150 lbs or so, in which case you'll still need something in the neighborhood of 1900 lbs of payload capacity.

If you could get rid of 850 lbs (WDH and tongue weight), then you'd only need 1200 lbs of payload capacity for the family and quad - and you wouldn't even need the HD package for that.

That's similar to the problem I had with my very low payload capacity in my standard tow, highly optioned King Ranch. I got a Trailer Toad that carries ALL the tongue weight, so I have the complete payload capacity of the truck to load people and stuff in the cab and bed. With all the tongue weight on the Trailer Toad, the only limits I have are to not exceed the payload capacity of the truck by overloading with people and cargo, and not exceeding the GCWR (max combined weight of the truck and trailer).

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As far as engines go I would bypass the 3.5 and the 5.0 and go to straight to the 6.2. The 6.2 is a true truck engine and is borrowed from the F250. This engine will buy you long term reliability in the "hilly" terrain of northern B.C.


Order the HD payload package and order the factory LT rated tires. I have heard that ordering factory LT rated tires will increase your payload capacity by a couple of hundred extra pounds. You should be able to squeak by with this.
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Wow thanks for all the replies.

I don't want the 6.7L sorry

That Trailer Toad is wicked. If I could find one for 1/2 I would get one for sure!

I'm leaning towards the 5.0L with Heavy Duty Payload Package and here is why:
Payload rating = 2330 lbs
Total payload = 1800 lbs
(Me, wife and dog = 400 lbs / ATV = 800 lbs / Toy hauler Tongue = 600 lbs)
Leaves me with 530 lbs free for beer!

Max towable = 9200 lbs
Toy hauler = 3500 lbs dry / 6500 lbs fully loaded

F-150 curb weight = 5731
Payload = 1800
Toy Hauler = 6500
Total GCWR = 9031
Rating = 15000

By paper it works.

What do you guys think?
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Wow thanks for all the replies.

I don't want the 6.7L sorry

That Trailer Toad is wicked. If I could find one for 1/2 I would get one for sure!

I'm leaning towards the 5.0L with Heavy Duty Payload Package and here is why:
Payload rating = 2330 lbs
Total payload = 1800 lbs
(Me, wife and dog = 400 lbs / ATV = 800 lbs / Toy hauler Tongue = 600 lbs)
Leaves me with 530 lbs free for beer!

Max towable = 9200 lbs
Toy hauler = 3500 lbs dry / 6500 lbs fully loaded

F-150 curb weight = 5731
Payload = 1800
Toy Hauler = 6500
Total GCWR = 9031
Rating = 15000

By paper it works.

What do you guys think?
With the HD Payload option, either engine would work I think.
Just don't add every other option in the book as they all reduce your payload some.

The EcoBoost has a lot more low-end torque and is better at high elevations with the turbo. That would be my choice.
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The EcoBoost has a lot more low-end torque and is better at high elevations with the turbo. That would be my choice.
Yep. It will out-tow the 6.2 also.
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Yep. It will out-tow the 6.2 also.


I guess that's why they put the 3.5 in the F250 and not the 6.2 or did I get that the wrong way around.


I have the 5.0 and it is plenty of engine for towing and the 6-speed transmission will keep you in the power. The real benefit that the 5.0 has over the 3.5 is engine braking...the 5.0 actually has some. Brake fade or loss is scary s**t so I'll gladly go with an engine that is not only willing to pull but is also willing to help slow things down.


Heat is the only real enemy so make sure you get oversized oil/engine coolers and change your oil often. Full synthetic may be a bit much but it wouldn't hurt.


If all else fails than slow down a bit and keep the rpms reasonable. My guess is you'll be stuck behind slower traffic anyways.
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