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Old 03-18-2016, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Minus all the people in the truck minus any gear in the truck, minus anything you added to the truck (tonneau cover, etc.), minus the WDH....

Read some of the threads here to better understand things.
Right! Most of the gear will be in the trailer and it will usually be me and maybe one other person. Plus the hitch.
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I guessed pretty close, if you stick to a light 2H GN you would be good to go. For two horses assuming qh typical about 1200 or less per horse, you should be good to go.
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Originally Posted by 5.0GN tow
I guessed pretty close, if you stick to a light 2H GN you would be good to go. For two horses assuming qh typical about 1200 or less per horse, you should be good to go.
What's the advantages over the GN over the bumper pull? Besides pulling nicer is a gooseneck hitch easier on the truck for hauling versus the bumper pull.
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The biggest advantages are how much smoother they tow, and how much more stable they are. Horses moving around in a BP are very noticeable when towing, with a GN not so much. The GN puts the weight of the pin further forward on the truck, so the weight is more evenly distributed. The ball is just forward of the rear axle instead of behind it by 3 feet or so. It also makes for an easier time in tight spaces as you can turn much sharper.

Plus if you don't mind dry camping a GN is easy to sleep in at Shows or trail rides. Even bare bones dressing room in. GN will have room for a mattress or air mattress, in the bunk above the hitch.
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The 2H GN with dressing rooms will be about 3500 to 3800 empty, two normal size QH will add about 2500 your gear another 500 or so. It will put you around 7k with probably around 1k on the hitch. It leaves you about 500lbs of room on truck payload, and 500 to 700 more you can stow beyond the initial 500 I mentioned in the trailer. You will be very close to max but it will do fine. It will be much more pleasant to tow than a BP which would only be about 500 pounds less.
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Originally Posted by 5.0GN tow
The 2H GN with dressing rooms will be about 3500 to 3800 empty, two normal size QH will add about 2500 your gear another 500 or so. It will put you around 7k with probably around 1k on the hitch. It leaves you about 500lbs of room on truck payload, and 500 to 700 more you can stow beyond the initial 500 I mentioned in the trailer. You will be very close to max but it will do fine. It will be much more pleasant to tow than a BP which would only be about 500 pounds less.
Thank you very much. You have been super helpful!
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No problem, glad to help. Not too many of the guys on here tow horses, Smokeywren does some, but mostly it's RVs. RVs and Horsetrailers are very different setups for towing. The trailers are designed very differently and balance very differently. I know from my truck and trailer, I am around 12 to 15 percent on the pin weight and it's moved way forward compared to a BP trailer, so the truck likes it better. Also with a bumper pull you have the hookup and backing issues associated with the WDH, with a GN it's just hook up and go, takes less than 5 min, and no dropping WDH bars for backing into tight spaces requiring sharp turning.
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I have been looking for awhile trying to find info on horse trailers. even googling it doesn't turn up any real good information on how the weight is distributed and what not. I guess my next step is figuring out if putting a GN ball in the bed of my truck will mess with my lease.
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Not sure this will be universal info or not, but for most smaller 2 and 3 horse GN trailers, I have found the pin weight for (non LQ models)to be around 1000, some a bit more, some a bit less. Mine is in this class. It's a 12 foot long wall, 6 foot short wall, 3 horse slant load. With all tack and normal load out but no horses its just at 1k on the pin. The normal load with 2 horses is about 7800 to 8000lbs. The pin with horses aboard using two rear stalls is 980, so not much change from just tack. My tandems are located almost directly under the middle of the stall area.
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If you install a GN they may charge you unless you leave it in when you return the truck, barring that, I know a guy who just put in a drop in plastic bed liner when he turned his in and nothing was said as the hole was under the liner.



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