NEWB towing question... Mountain Edition.
#11
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Do you have the basic tow package on your truck? Do you have a receiver hitch on the back with the 4 and 7 pin connectors? External transmission cooler built in in front of the radiator?
Honestly, you shouldn't have any problems with that trailer if you have the basic tow package (max tow not required). That trailer is not terribly heavy and the speed limits through the mountains are often 55-60mph and you will have no trouble keeping it rolling at those speeds.
If your truck doesn't have the tow package, you may want to consider adding the external cooler and you'll need to wire everything up anyway.
Honestly, you shouldn't have any problems with that trailer if you have the basic tow package (max tow not required). That trailer is not terribly heavy and the speed limits through the mountains are often 55-60mph and you will have no trouble keeping it rolling at those speeds.
If your truck doesn't have the tow package, you may want to consider adding the external cooler and you'll need to wire everything up anyway.
#13
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Comparing those numbers with my 2012 EcoBoost with 3.15 axle ratio dragging a 6,000-pound cargo trailer across the Rockies, I don't think you'll have any big problems towing a trailer that grosses 6,500 pounds. Unless you think that every EcoBoost blowing by you on any decent mountain grade is a problem.
Do you have the basic tow package on your truck? Do you have a receiver hitch on the back with the 4 and 7 pin connectors? External transmission cooler built in in front of the radiator?
have you looked at the r-pods?
#14
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#15
I didn't realize it was only 7.5 ft wide... that's kind of cool. the only number you're really gonna be close on is your payload if you max out the cargo capacity of the camper (which is pretty high @ 2223pds) if you fill those tanks (which is pretty unlikely you'd be full on all the tanks) that's 750 pds you still have 1503 pds. if it's just you and your wife, that is a lot to play with to get to the full 6500 pds. I don't travel with much if anything in the tanks so if you were like me and the camper loaded up is about 1k pds over dry wieght, you're @ 5277 pds and if you max out your tongue weight @ 15% (i like to be more like 12-13%) that's only 792 pds leaving you with 588 (or almost 700 pds if you're at 13%) to play with in the truck. I think with those numbers, you are looking really good. I'm pulling a 7500 pd camper all loaded up with the 4 speed 5.4l 3.55's with 33.5in tires and i don't like it but it works. you'd be pulling a 5300 pd loaded camper with a 6 speed (which will help with your 3.55's) I'd do it!
I love mountain biking but my wife likes to take bike rides so it stead of getting to hit the dirt, i'm normally hitting the paved trails with my wife and pulling the baby in the bike trailer :-(
I love mountain biking but my wife likes to take bike rides so it stead of getting to hit the dirt, i'm normally hitting the paved trails with my wife and pulling the baby in the bike trailer :-(
#16
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Thanks again for the replies. Yeah, I think the Apex might be too close to the limit for my truck. I have no interest in travelling 'white knuckled' thru the mountains. I'd rather err on the side of caution. Plus I'm a towing newb and I'd rather a gentler learning curve that'd come with a smaller/lighter unit.
I think the 34" tires (althou they look great) might be overkill also. I'll probably replace them with something closer to the stock size. Which sucks because they only have about 1500kms.
I think the 34" tires (althou they look great) might be overkill also. I'll probably replace them with something closer to the stock size. Which sucks because they only have about 1500kms.
towing will be easier too. It may be like going from 3.55 gears to 3.73 gears.
Less RPM going up steep stuff will make your day.
I said LT rated tires, cause the stiffer sidewalls improve towing 100%.
Last edited by Ole Man Dan; 04-08-2014 at 12:15 AM. Reason: format
#18
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If you have the hitch and connectors, you have the basic tow package. It has the same radiator and transmission cooler as the max tow package. The max tow gets the 3.73 gears, tow mirrors and integrated brake controller(you will need one installed. I use a tekonsha prodigy). You won't have any problem keeping it at the speed limit with your trailer in the mountains...you could even slow down and enjoy the view, allowing the ecos and giant diesels room to pass, of course. Some info:
http://www.ford.ca/resources/ford/ge...Towing_Ev6.pdf
While our trailer is only 4000lbs loaded it has a heavy tongue weight at around 700lbs. I use a Reese WDH and firestone airbags and it keeps things nicely level. I have bilstein 5100s installed, front and back, but only at stock height. Works fine for me. I used to tow the same trailer all over the rockies (calgary to the okanagon every year, north and south routes) with our Sienna and it could keep up, up rogers pass and the passes on hwy3 from Osoyoos to Calgary. The truck makes it effortless.
http://www.ford.ca/resources/ford/ge...Towing_Ev6.pdf
While our trailer is only 4000lbs loaded it has a heavy tongue weight at around 700lbs. I use a Reese WDH and firestone airbags and it keeps things nicely level. I have bilstein 5100s installed, front and back, but only at stock height. Works fine for me. I used to tow the same trailer all over the rockies (calgary to the okanagon every year, north and south routes) with our Sienna and it could keep up, up rogers pass and the passes on hwy3 from Osoyoos to Calgary. The truck makes it effortless.
#19
If you have the hitch and connectors, you have the basic tow package. It has the same radiator and transmission cooler as the max tow package. The max tow gets the 3.73 gears, tow mirrors and integrated brake controller(you will need one installed. I use a tekonsha prodigy). You won't have any problem keeping it at the speed limit with your trailer in the mountains...you could even slow down and enjoy the view, allowing the ecos and giant diesels room to pass, of course. Some info:
http://www.ford.ca/resources/ford/ge...Towing_Ev6.pdf
While our trailer is only 4000lbs loaded it has a heavy tongue weight at around 700lbs. I use a Reese WDH and firestone airbags and it keeps things nicely level. I have bilstein 5100s installed, front and back, but only at stock height. Works fine for me. I used to tow the same trailer all over the rockies (calgary to the okanagon every year, north and south routes) with our Sienna and it could keep up, up rogers pass and the passes on hwy3 from Osoyoos to Calgary. The truck makes it effortless.
http://www.ford.ca/resources/ford/ge...Towing_Ev6.pdf
While our trailer is only 4000lbs loaded it has a heavy tongue weight at around 700lbs. I use a Reese WDH and firestone airbags and it keeps things nicely level. I have bilstein 5100s installed, front and back, but only at stock height. Works fine for me. I used to tow the same trailer all over the rockies (calgary to the okanagon every year, north and south routes) with our Sienna and it could keep up, up rogers pass and the passes on hwy3 from Osoyoos to Calgary. The truck makes it effortless.
700pds is 17.5% tongue wieght... that does seem pretty heavy and 've heard 10-15% is where you want to be. looking at the pic, the axles do seem further back in relation to the trailer size than most TT's. I know low tongue weight can cause sway but never had experience with high tongue weight... do you think that high percentage of tongue weight effects handling in a positive or negative way?
#20
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700pds is 17.5% tongue wieght... that does seem pretty heavy and 've heard 10-15% is where you want to be. looking at the pic, the axles do seem further back in relation to the trailer size than most TT's. I know low tongue weight can cause sway but never had experience with high tongue weight... do you think that high percentage of tongue weight effects handling in a positive or negative way?
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