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Old 10-02-2014, 02:19 PM
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I believe so... like I said it says that that is the maximum number when appropriately optioned. You can't get the HD payload on the 5.5 bed, but it still shows the 10700lbs number for max towing capacity and I can only guess that that would include max tow.

As of right now they haven't released a spread sheet with payload and tow capacity numbers for all the different engine and cab configurations so I'm going off of what the build and price site is telling me when I choose the model, cab and engine configurations.

Here's the link if you would like to play around with it. http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-F-150#/Models/
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My honest opinion...

Start with the 3/4 or 1 ton of your choice and a 5th
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Originally Posted by borninblue
With reading on the new payload numbers, does anyone think it could now be possible for me to pull this trailer comfortably with a new 2015 without the HD Payload package?
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6819 dry, with tongue weight of 830.


As others have stated over and over, do not use dry weights! You'll be overloaded.


Wet and loaded trailer will probably weigh over 8,000 pounds, with tongue weight of up to 1,200 pounds. Use those numbers to do the math. If you don't worry about leaving out that extra hammer in your toolbox, then the 2015 F-150 with the Max Tow pkg might be suitable for you. But I would still want the HD Payload Pkg to tow that trailer. I hate worrying about how much fresh water I can haul, or whether I can haul that extra hammer or jack or some campfire wood.

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Originally Posted by smokeywren
As others have stated over and over, do nut use dry weights! You'll be overloaded.


Wet and loaded trailer will probably weigh over 8,000 pounds, with tongue weight of up to 1,200 pounds. Use those numbers to do the math. If you don't worry about leaving out that extra hammer in your toolbox, then the 2015 F-150 with the Max Tow pkg might be suitable for you. But I would still want the HD Payload Pkg to tow that trailer. I hate worrying about how much fresh water I can haul, or whether I can haul that extra hammer or jack or some campfire wood.
Thanks for the help, I do know that dry weights are not to be used and figure around 2000 extra. I want the HD Payload but 6.5 bed will not fit in garage. This is why I was checking on max tow with the 15's. We are set on the trailer just don't want to regret both purchases. 3/4 tons just suck too much gas as a daily driver. I'll just have to wait for solid payload numbers to get released and go from there. Or just go for HD package and let the truck sit in the driveway.
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Originally Posted by borninblue
Thanks for the help, I do know that dry weights are not to be used and figure around 2000 extra. I want the HD Payload but 6.5 bed will not fit in garage. This is why I was checking on max tow with the 15's. We are set on the trailer just don't want to regret both purchases. 3/4 tons just suck too much gas as a daily driver. I'll just have to wait for solid payload numbers to get released and go from there. Or just go for HD package and let the truck sit in the driveway.
ill use my truck as a comparison as I think you will see that if you go with a 2015 ECOSCREW 3.5 you will be more then fine. Good maintenance and defensive safe driving are really the main things that will keep you out of trouble.


I have a 2012 Ecoscrew5.5 lariat...
GVWR 7650#
Payload 1703#
GCWR 17000#
Max Tow 11200#
Front GAWR 3750#
Rear GAWR 4050#
..... So to the math if you load up the family + odds and sods in my truck at 600#, (remember 150 lbs driver and full tank of gas are already factored in to the Max payload) Im left with 1100# payload. If I have a 7500# trailer and calculate 15% ( safe calculation....most people use 10% for a TT) for the tongue weight that's another approx 1125# of payload.(payload done now.... Its usually always the weak link) If my vech weight is 5947# (no mods) and I add the 7500# trailer + 1725# ( 600 actual + tongue of 15% ) payload. I've got a GCWR of approx 15225#. This is well under the 17000#. So go try to find a trailer with the fresh and grey H2o in the rear. This will decrease the tounge weight and I'm sure you will be fine. Remember the new truck will be 500-800# lighter. Just my thoughts.
Of course a 5th wheel could be an option and you will likely find that it handles better on windy days or on 2ndary routes. Or go buy a low mile 2012/13 or new 2014. Take advantage of all of the incentives on the 2014s. You can put that money towards a great trip. Enjoy and Happy buying
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Originally Posted by Bill_The_PA
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(remember 150 lbs driver and full tank of gas are already factored in to the Max payload)
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Nobody knows how Ford calculates the catalogue's Max Payload for a particular truck configuration. For a while they were not even counting the weight of rear bumper as it could be optioned off the truck. Apparently that's changed now, and they're just using the base model.

So try to get the truck's actual payload as reported on the yellow sticker on the door jamb. This does include a full tank of gas (not sure if it a full big tank or just the small tank), but not does NOT include the driver's or any passenger's weight. So from that you have to subtract the weight of all people as well as all gear and the weight of the WDH to get your max possible trailer tongue weight without exceeding the truck's GVWR.

Or load up the truck as for camping and go to scale where you can measure both axle weights. You might find, as I do, that the rear GAWR will limit tongue weight more than the GVWR.
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Well others feel free to chime in. Although your right WRT knowing the actual Wt till he calls for it or reads the sticker. my example was trying to show that I think that given that his 2015 will likely be 500-800 lbs lighter then mine, given it won't be a Lariat (based on what he said in the post) with pretty much all the extras in it (leather electric motors etc) as for the fuel. I will Assume fuel
Will be included again so the size of the tank won't matter. (Other then it's actual at) The driver has been included in the past so if they don't we"re still likely end up with similar #. Perhaps if the poster could build his truck and post a screenshot we can all dive in and do our best to find the answers. I'm curious now.
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Originally Posted by Bill_The_PA
Well others feel free to chime in. Although your right WRT knowing the actual Wt till he calls for it or reads the sticker. my example was trying to show that I think that given that his 2015 will likely be 500-800 lbs lighter then mine, given it won't be a Lariat (based on what he said in the post) with pretty much all the extras in it (leather electric motors etc) as for the fuel. I will Assume fuel
Will be included again so the size of the tank won't matter. (Other then it's actual at) The driver has been included in the past so if they don't we"re still likely end up with similar #. Perhaps if the poster could build his truck and post a screenshot we can all dive in and do our best to find the answers. I'm curious now.
Here ya go:

2015 XLT sScrew with 3.5 Eco and 5.5 bed
302a package
Sport appearance package (cloth)
Max trailer tow
Remote start
Rear camera
Sliding rear window
100v/400 watt inverter
Extended range tank
3.55 Axel
18" wheels

And I'm all ears!
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Originally Posted by borninblue
Here ya go: 2015 XLT sScrew with 3.5 Eco and 5.5 bed 302a package Sport appearance package (cloth) Max trailer tow Remote start Rear camera Sliding rear window 100v/400 watt inverter Extended range tank 3.55 Axel 18" wheels And I'm all ears!
ill work on this for U. In the mean time go to YouTube an watch the 2015 hauling hay on a Montana ranch. That lariat hauled 460+ bails of hay for 3+ days all day at over 11000 lbs. that should give U most of your answers. MTF.
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Originally Posted by borninblue
Here ya go: 2015 XLT sScrew with 3.5 Eco and 5.5 bed 302a package Sport appearance package (cloth) Max trailer tow Remote start Rear camera Sliding rear window 100v/400 watt inverter Extended range tank 3.55 Axel 18" wheels And I'm all ears!
im assuming you want tow mirrors and 4X2 as I'm not sure as of now if they will become std with tow pkg.


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