blueovelboy

LBS, TONGUE WEIGHT, PIN WEIGHT, WD it all stumps me and no one ever tells me in a way i under stand? i just load hit the scales and if i am under or over buy no more than 500 LBS of the gcwr ill tow it.

jcain

what frickin WDH weighs 150???? mine is maybe 75.

SkiSmuggs

Agreed, my Equal-i-zer was no more than that. Sure, let's get a Super Duty to carry the WDH.

flixden

Not sure, I was guessing. Make it a hundred then, whatever. It does not change the fact that in my example most of the tongue weight is still carried by the tow vehicle (90% then, if you like that better).
It's heavier than 75#, I am pretty sure. A 10K / 1K Equalizer has a shipping weight of over 100 lbs without the hitch ball, and there are heavier hitches out there. So 100 - 150 lbs is not out of this world or completely unrealistic.
http://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distr...0-00-1000.html

jcain

and f150 headlights (pair) has a shipping weight of 22lbs, but are roughly 7lbs each.

flixden

Yeah, that applies here.
Did you unpack your hitch?
Even if you'd assume your 75 lbs (which is not true) - the numbers I quoted don't really change by anything significant. The TV would carry 85% of the tongue weight then instead of 90. So what? What's your problem with the hitch weight?

SkiSmuggs

And forgotten is the fact that the WDH moves weight to the front axle of the TV, not just to the trailer axles, much more than making up for its own weight.

flixden

No, that's not forgotten. What's transferred to the front is still carried by the tow vehicle, and is part of the payload. That's why the HD payload suggestion also for heavy TT's - which you questioned. There is more than a rear axle weight rating.

SkiSmuggs

Agreed, but the rear axle weight rating is one the of main limiting factors allowing for only 1250 lbs additional load on the rear axle when the payload is 1878 lbs, so moving some of it forward is helpful, especially when a TT can lift the front tires enough to make handling dangerous because it adds load behind the rear axle.

flixden

Agreed.
You still need to look at all of the numbers, but I think we are basically saying the same thing.