gopackgo12

You are not the bearer of bad news because I have crossed off the Outback lines. we are leaning toward the Cougar line (Keystone). I believe the 28 rbs is around 6300 lbs dry weight with a capacity of just under 2k and a length of 31' total.

BTW you all are right with making sure to I add weight because the kiddos will grow like weeds. Currently their combined weight is about 60 lbs MAX. No pets, wife is probably (after pregnancy) around 120 lbs and I am around 185. (wow we get personal on this forum, huh?)

I will look into the Jayco. I know they make them well but I am just afraid of all that wood it is made out of...

gopackgo12

Since you have that trailer, how does your truck handle it? Do you need, as some in other forums would suggestion, a bigger truck? I am very interested in your thoughts Ricktwuhk

xcntrk

Ahhh there you go, that's more like it (1544# payload). Sorry for the Spanish Inquisition there with the model info, but something wasn't adding up. 3100# payload is up in the F350 SRW territory. I know the new 2015 F150's are light weight and free up additional payload, but 3k lbs! I was set to trade my 2013 in tomorrow!

gopackgo12

LOL

gopackgo12

I think I responded to the wrong poster...You are the one with the Outback right? How does your 3.5 Eco tow that? Any issues? I am really interested in your thoughts and experiences!!!

xcntrk

Have you looked at the Keystone Passports? They're similar in size & layout as the Outbacks, but can be had in lighter weight.

gopackgo12

would really like the front cap on the trailer...

xcntrk

It tows great. But I have gone through extensive lengths to make the F150 capable of towing at or near maximum GVWR. Air-bags, HD shocks, E-rated tires, super-fancy hitch, etc., all to get my little half-ton pickup capable of towing a trailer fit for a ¾ ton. Even at those lengths, every time I head out camping (got 14 trips in last seaons) I do so at maximum GVWR. Do you really want to be at the bleeding edge every time you hook up your camper? Personally, I’m shopping for a bigger truck and will (eventually) move into a Superduty. I hate to say it, but I wish I listed to the naysayers on RV.net when they told me get a bigger truck.

gopackgo12

Yeah, I understand. However, not going after the bigger Outback and settling for something 1000lbs less and 5-6 feet shorter should help..........should.

smokeywren

Yes. And I used to have flats or blowouts on trailer tires until I learned to upgrade the trailer tires to ones with 20% more weight capacity than required by the combined GAWR of the trailer. If you ever try to change a trailer tire in a muddy ditch during a rainstorm, that should be enough incentive to always carry a good jack and a big enough piece of plywood to be a good base for the jack.


Notice my sig says I've been towing for over 50 years. But it's well over 50 years if you count towing grain trailers to the elevator and cotton trailers to the gin when I was only 14 in 1952. (Farm boys after WW-II could get an unrestricted drivers license when they were 14 years old.)


My 5er came with ST205/75R15C tires, and two of them blew out on the first long trip. So I upgraded all 5 to ST225/75R15D. No more tire problems on that trailer. Later I upgraded the tires on a utility trailer from ST205/75R15C to ST225/75R15E, and on my cargo trailer from 205/75R15C to ST225/75R15D . No more tire problems on those trailers.


Notice that 225/75R15E tires require wheels at least 6" wide. So replacing the tires on three of my trailers with 225/75R15 also required replacing the wheels.


Recently I upgraded the tires on my TT from ST205/75R14C to ST215/75R14C. I was surprised that the ST205/75R14C had plenty of weight capacity to handle my small TT. But I had a flat caused by a west Texas mesquite thorn in the sidewall that ruined the tire, so when I replaced that tire I went ahead and replaced all 5 with one size bigger. No tire problems on that trailer other than that darned mesquite thorn.