Need new tires for towing
02-14-2016, 08:15 AM
#11
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I've had Michelon LTX MS/2 LT-E's for about 50K miles mostly towing and have been running them at 60 psi, rotated every 10K miles. Do like them a lot but they all are wearing too much on the sides like they are under-inflated. (My axle weights are much less than they can support at 60 psi.)
Maybe you have to run these LT-Es at their max 80 psi to wear evenly? I'll be upping the psi on these to see if I can get more miles out of them.
And if you want to run at 50 psi, you might get better wear out of an LT-C tire, or an LT-D at 65psi (their max psi's)?
Maybe you have to run these LT-Es at their max 80 psi to wear evenly? I'll be upping the psi on these to see if I can get more miles out of them.
And if you want to run at 50 psi, you might get better wear out of an LT-C tire, or an LT-D at 65psi (their max psi's)?
02-14-2016, 08:21 AM
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HD package wasn't available in '15 and still not here for '16. I have max tow and airbags. I don't think that the heavier leaf springs or axles of the HD package would help. My previous '11 and 13' ecoboosts had Wrangler AT/S load range C, max tow, air bags and I had no sway issues with a gooseneck loaded with hay and weights of 10-12k lbs. Only difference is the new lighter body but I am not sure how that effects it. You would think that having 1700 lbs of pin weight would replace any weight missing from the truck
02-14-2016, 08:23 AM
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02-14-2016, 09:53 AM
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HD package wasn't available in '15 and still not here for '16. I have max tow and airbags. I don't think that the heavier leaf springs or axles of the HD package would help. My previous '11 and 13' ecoboosts had Wrangler AT/S load range C, max tow, air bags and I had no sway issues with a gooseneck loaded with hay and weights of 10-12k lbs. Only difference is the new lighter body but I am not sure how that effects it. You would think that having 1700 lbs of pin weight would replace any weight missing from the truck
02-14-2016, 10:37 AM
#16
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the axels are smaller and the GAWR is less. If you have HD payload then you get last generation Axels ( non HD payload) as I had on the 2012 ecoscrew Lariat with max tow. If you get the HD this year you get last years axel and 3.73 In an effort to increase MPG we lost the ability to tow like before (unless you're willing to sacrifice options). It's all smoke and mirrors to protect the reputation of the EB. IMHO
Now back to our discussion on tires.
Any more suggestions on LT tires preferably C range? I still can't find any D's and am afraid that if I go with E's the truck will ride like my Super Duty. My nephew got a new Tacoma about the time I got my new Ford. I drove his and it rode like crap. I then noticed it had BFG's on it- E load range!What about the Cooper Discoverer AT3 in C vs E?
02-14-2016, 12:59 PM
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The "standard" axles are the same as last year's, you just can't get 3.73 any more unless you go with the HD package. Ford derated the axles from 4050 lbs to 3800 lbs as they lowered the GVWR on the new trucks. The HD axle is still heavier but no longer has 7 lugs. Now I believe both have 6 lugs. Now back to our discussion on tires. Any more suggestions on LT tires preferably C range? I still can't find any D's and am afraid that if I go with E's the truck will ride like my Super Duty. My nephew got a new Tacoma about the time I got my new Ford. I drove his and it rode like crap. I then noticed it had BFG's on it- E load range! What about the Cooper Discoverer AT3 in C vs E?
Any more suggestions on LT tires preferably C range? I still can't find any D's and am afraid that if I go with E's the truck will ride like my Super Duty. My nephew got a new Tacoma about the time I got my new Ford. I drove his and it rode like crap. I then noticed it had BFG's on it- E load range! What about the Cooper Discoverer AT3 in C vs E?Just for my understanding. how is it the axles were derated. I find it hard to believe that a beefier axel a slightly stronger rim (6-spoke Machined Aluminum 18" x 7.5" with max wheel load capacity of 2101 lbs vs 1825 lbs) 6 lugs vs 7 and one leave spring added (3+1 vs 2+1) frame thickness although a slight difference the yield strength remains 49,300 psi. I think there different ant the HD are as I had in my 2012. I don't think Ford would make two new axles when they already had 1 perfectly good axel / hub assembly. The old (mine) and the new "HD" seem to be the same in all aspects including the 3.73:1 ratio with 9.75 HD ring gear.
02-14-2016, 01:13 PM
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we'll I'll leave the axels for now. You didn't answer what your towing wt or habits are so I'll assume standard "C" rated will do so. As I stated before either the Wrangler or Cooper would be excellent. They both have great reviews. I suppose the wrangler would be better the Kevlar and your dealership might have som takeoffs.
Just for my understanding. how is it the axles were derated. I find it hard to believe that a beefier axel a slightly stronger rim (6-spoke Machined Aluminum 18" x 7.5" with max wheel load capacity of 2101 lbs vs 1825 lbs) 6 lugs vs 7 and one leave spring added (3+1 vs 2+1) frame thickness although a slight difference the yield strength remains 49,300 psi. I think there different ant the HD are as I had in my 2012. I don't think Ford would make two new axles when they already had 1 perfectly good axel / hub assembly. The old (mine) and the new "HD" seem to be the same in all aspects including the 3.73:1 ratio with 9.75 HD ring gear.
Just for my understanding. how is it the axles were derated. I find it hard to believe that a beefier axel a slightly stronger rim (6-spoke Machined Aluminum 18" x 7.5" with max wheel load capacity of 2101 lbs vs 1825 lbs) 6 lugs vs 7 and one leave spring added (3+1 vs 2+1) frame thickness although a slight difference the yield strength remains 49,300 psi. I think there different ant the HD are as I had in my 2012. I don't think Ford would make two new axles when they already had 1 perfectly good axel / hub assembly. The old (mine) and the new "HD" seem to be the same in all aspects including the 3.73:1 ratio with 9.75 HD ring gear.
Like you said the old generation hd axle had 7 lugs, a thicker axle shaft and hd ring gear. Now the hd has 6 lugs, a hd ring gear and I am not sure about the axle shaft itself. The "old" hd was rated at 4800 lbs as is the "new". It's just the standard axle that was reduced in capacity.