to much trailer?? i've read a billion threads :)
#21
Senior Member
ok guys thanks and just a quick update. we bought the TT listed in first post. filled it up with water and a bunch of stuff to try and get it to a weight that is close to what we will be towing normally. I will be heading to cat scale in a bit to see how close or over i am, but for right now just wanted to drive it around a bit and see how she feels. the truck seems to be pulling it pretty well. we live in southern california so plenty of highways and mountain roads to try. highways no problem and even though i felt it back there it did pretty well on the hills. the 6 speed tranny really is geared low on those first few gears and helps pull that trailer. didn't notice much if any sway when passing big rigs. now on to what i do feel when towing. its not much but i do feel a bit of "porpoising" up/down movement when hitting some bumps. would some bilstiens in the back be a good idea? i'm still thinking some airbags, but not sure if that would help any?
#23
i've been reading as many posts as possible and have tried to calculate as much as i can. but I wanted you guys to just take a look and tell me if this is to much trailer.
i have 2014 XLT 4x4 Supercrew 5.0L with 3.55 gears 145"WB. sticker states #7,350 GVWR. I have the trailer brake control and standard tow package. here are my door stickers.
I am looking at a jayco jay flight slx 267BHSW
WEIGHTS
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 5615
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 645
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 7000
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 1385
Exterior Length 30' 2""
I will be using a husky centerline TS WDH
http://www.jayco.com/products/travel...t-slx/267bhsw/
let me know if i can provide any other info. Thoughts on this? is it to much for this truck?
Thanks for any help.
i have 2014 XLT 4x4 Supercrew 5.0L with 3.55 gears 145"WB. sticker states #7,350 GVWR. I have the trailer brake control and standard tow package. here are my door stickers.
I am looking at a jayco jay flight slx 267BHSW
WEIGHTS
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 5615
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 645
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 7000
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 1385
Exterior Length 30' 2""
I will be using a husky centerline TS WDH
http://www.jayco.com/products/travel...t-slx/267bhsw/
let me know if i can provide any other info. Thoughts on this? is it to much for this truck?
Thanks for any help.
For my family of 4, it was to heavy for my previous 2012 F150 that had a tow rating of 9300 lbs and a payload of 1582 lbs. I would had run over the truck's GVWR with that trailer.
One of the reasons why I wanted a HD Payload package but was lucky enough to find a truck with a very high 1890 lbs payload without the HD Payload package.
Just seen that this trailer has a very low 7000 lbs GVWR. You won't be able to put hardly anything in it with only a real 800 lbs payload. You'll fit water, some food, and clothes then the GVWR will be met. My trailer which is 1000 lbs lighter has a 7500 lbs GVWR.
The 267BHSW is the budget model of the previous standard Jay Flight 26BHS. That 26BHS has been replaced by the 27BHS. The 2016 Discontinued 26BHS had a 7750 lbs GVWR and was only a couple hundred lbs heavier than the Swift so it's hard to see why they dropped the GVWR so low.
Last edited by Mike Up; 06-28-2016 at 02:32 AM.
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#26
That's pretty light as the standard Jay Flight 26BHS on the lot were around 6500 lbs with all factory options.
Not sure what jayco did to the 267BHSW to shave off that extra 500 lbs but those things are light now. Light as an Ultralite camper of the same size.
They really need to add some netting to the shelves that replaced the cabinets in the Jay Flight models though. I leave my cabinets stocked all year around and travel with them. All my stuff would get thrown off the shelves while towing without a net to hold it in.
Not sure what jayco did to the 267BHSW to shave off that extra 500 lbs but those things are light now. Light as an Ultralite camper of the same size.
They really need to add some netting to the shelves that replaced the cabinets in the Jay Flight models though. I leave my cabinets stocked all year around and travel with them. All my stuff would get thrown off the shelves while towing without a net to hold it in.
#27
That's pretty light as the standard Jay Flight 26BHS on the lot were around 6500 lbs with all factory options.
Not sure what jayco did to the 267BHSW to shave off that extra 500 lbs but those things are light now. Light as an Ultralite camper of the same size.
They really need to add some netting to the shelves that replaced the cabinets in the Jay Flight models though. I leave my cabinets stocked all year around and travel with them. All my stuff would get thrown off the shelves while towing without a net to hold it in.
Not sure what jayco did to the 267BHSW to shave off that extra 500 lbs but those things are light now. Light as an Ultralite camper of the same size.
They really need to add some netting to the shelves that replaced the cabinets in the Jay Flight models though. I leave my cabinets stocked all year around and travel with them. All my stuff would get thrown off the shelves while towing without a net to hold it in.
#28
That's pretty light as the standard Jay Flight 26BHS on the lot were around 6500 lbs with all factory options.
Not sure what jayco did to the 267BHSW to shave off that extra 500 lbs but those things are light now. Light as an Ultralite camper of the same size.
They really need to add some netting to the shelves that replaced the cabinets in the Jay Flight models though. I leave my cabinets stocked all year around and travel with them. All my stuff would get thrown off the shelves while towing without a net to hold it in.
Not sure what jayco did to the 267BHSW to shave off that extra 500 lbs but those things are light now. Light as an Ultralite camper of the same size.
They really need to add some netting to the shelves that replaced the cabinets in the Jay Flight models though. I leave my cabinets stocked all year around and travel with them. All my stuff would get thrown off the shelves while towing without a net to hold it in.
I think we looked at your model also. and for 2017 your 26bh is now at 4805 for dry weight which i tried to convince the wife was a better choice for us lol.
#29
I'm not talking about my camper, I was talking about the 26BHS which is the identical clone to yours but has additoinal features.
I said shave 500 lbs when it really was almost shave 1000 lbs off from the 26BHS.
Here's the 2016 Jay Flight 26BHS
Here's the 2016 Jay Flight Swift 267BHSW
The differences is that the Standard Jay Flight has in floor ducting (opposed to above floor ducting hose), Wall thermostatically controlled A/C (opposed to ceiling shrowd controlled A/C), 8 CF Refrigerator (opposed to 6 CF Refrigerator), 30# propane tanks (opposed to 20# propane tanks), 1 additional fresh water tank, Heavier duty frame for higher GVWR, More cabinets and full cabinets instead of shelves, porcelain toilet (opposed to plastic toilet), and more lighting.
There's more smaller differences but these were the bigger differences. I guess all of these add up for the "dry" weight savings but really wouldn't think that much weight was saved.
Obviously these omissions above seem to save more money than weight and the money is significant so if you don't need or want the upgrades, I can surely see going with the Swift. Now besides money, weight seems to be really saved as well.
I said shave 500 lbs when it really was almost shave 1000 lbs off from the 26BHS.
Here's the 2016 Jay Flight 26BHS
Here's the 2016 Jay Flight Swift 267BHSW
The differences is that the Standard Jay Flight has in floor ducting (opposed to above floor ducting hose), Wall thermostatically controlled A/C (opposed to ceiling shrowd controlled A/C), 8 CF Refrigerator (opposed to 6 CF Refrigerator), 30# propane tanks (opposed to 20# propane tanks), 1 additional fresh water tank, Heavier duty frame for higher GVWR, More cabinets and full cabinets instead of shelves, porcelain toilet (opposed to plastic toilet), and more lighting.
There's more smaller differences but these were the bigger differences. I guess all of these add up for the "dry" weight savings but really wouldn't think that much weight was saved.
Obviously these omissions above seem to save more money than weight and the money is significant so if you don't need or want the upgrades, I can surely see going with the Swift. Now besides money, weight seems to be really saved as well.
Last edited by Mike Up; 06-29-2016 at 09:14 AM.
#30
Senior Member
If I may ask a related question. I just bought an almost identical truck about a month ago. Since I bought it used I'd still guessing about a few things. The GVWR rating of 7350 is the same on my truck. But the tag that says "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed" 1621. That is 120 lbs more. Why? The only guess I have is that some options make my truck 120 lbs lighter.