Max Trailer and Heavy Duty Payload
02-22-2017, 04:49 PM
#61
Trying to order a 2017 F150
My current 2011 ecoboost lariat F150 502a package Heavy duty payload
telescoping camper mirrors Max Tow 3.73 locking rear end
I was told I can't get the same package with Heavy-Duty Payload Package (Option Code 627). Anyone know what the problem is?
Think it will be available in 2018?
I need the heavy springs and rear end for my assorted trailers.
Test drove a srw f250 diesel "Problem Solved" or is there other options
My current 2011 ecoboost lariat F150 502a package Heavy duty payload
telescoping camper mirrors Max Tow 3.73 locking rear end
I was told I can't get the same package with Heavy-Duty Payload Package (Option Code 627). Anyone know what the problem is?
Think it will be available in 2018?
I need the heavy springs and rear end for my assorted trailers.
Test drove a srw f250 diesel "Problem Solved" or is there other options
02-22-2017, 05:28 PM
#62
Official HTT Greeter
I don't think you can get HDPP with the 502A package.
also, if you want a diesel, go with the F350 SRW. you'll have more payload and towing with basically the same truck.
also, if you want a diesel, go with the F350 SRW. you'll have more payload and towing with basically the same truck.
02-22-2017, 08:47 PM
#63
Senior Member
For 15 and 16 HDPP Lariats had the 500A package only. I ordered one each year but they were never built. You can add Navigation, Max-tow is included with the 3.5, you can only get one step bar (186 option), you can add the power fold tow mirrors (54W) 36-gallon tank (655), and 110 inverter outlet. You can get Leather in either 40/20/40 bench or console. I imagine 17's had little change.
02-23-2017, 10:05 AM
#64
Grumpy Old Man
Trying to order a 2017 F150
My current 2011 ecoboost lariat F150 502a package Heavy duty payload
telescoping camper mirrors Max Tow 3.73 locking rear end
I was told I can't get the same package with Heavy-Duty Payload Package (Option Code 627). Anyone know what the problem is?
My current 2011 ecoboost lariat F150 502a package Heavy duty payload
telescoping camper mirrors Max Tow 3.73 locking rear end
I was told I can't get the same package with Heavy-Duty Payload Package (Option Code 627). Anyone know what the problem is?
Yeah, Ford no longer offers the HDPP on the F-150 with luxury packages such as Lariat 502a. The fanciest available is Lariat with base trim pkg, 500A.
Think it will be available in 2018?
I doubt it.
I need the heavy springs and rear end for my assorted trailers.
Test drove a srw f250 diesel "Problem Solved" or is there other options
Test drove a srw f250 diesel "Problem Solved" or is there other options
Problem solved with a SuperDuty. You can have the fanciest trim level they make and still have more payload capacity than any F-150.
Last edited by smokeywren; 02-23-2017 at 07:49 PM.
02-23-2017, 03:55 PM
#65
Yeah, Ford no longer offers the HDPP on the F-150 with luxury packages such as Lariat 502a. The fanciest available is Lariat with base trim pkg, 500A.
I doubt it.
Problem solved with a SuperDuty. You can have the fanciest trim level they make and still have more payload capacity than any F-150. But F-250 has GVWR of 10,000 pounds, and the fanciest trim package on a Platinum or King Ranch has some heavy options that reduce payload to about the same as the F-150 HDPP. But the fix to add another 1,500 pounds of payload capacity on a SuperDuty is a simple check in the model number column. Order an F-350 with single rear wheels (SRW) and with any trim level your heart desires and you'll have a lot more springs and rear end than any F-150 or F-250 can have. A new F-350 SRW costs very little more than an F-250 with the same options, with the ride virtually identical to the F-250. So the answer to anyone that needs a pickup for towing heavy trailers, but doesn't want to drive a dually, is the F-350 SRW.
I doubt it.
Problem solved with a SuperDuty. You can have the fanciest trim level they make and still have more payload capacity than any F-150. But F-250 has GVWR of 10,000 pounds, and the fanciest trim package on a Platinum or King Ranch has some heavy options that reduce payload to about the same as the F-150 HDPP. But the fix to add another 1,500 pounds of payload capacity on a SuperDuty is a simple check in the model number column. Order an F-350 with single rear wheels (SRW) and with any trim level your heart desires and you'll have a lot more springs and rear end than any F-150 or F-250 can have. A new F-350 SRW costs very little more than an F-250 with the same options, with the ride virtually identical to the F-250. So the answer to anyone that needs a pickup for towing heavy trailers, but doesn't want to drive a dually, is the F-350 SRW.
Anyone have any real MPG and the above trucks with the diesel and probably 3.55 gears.
02-23-2017, 07:55 PM
#66
Grumpy Old Man
Ignore that part of my post about the F-350 SRW. It was true for 2016 and earlier model years but Ford changed the world for the 2017 SuperDuty models.
The following link will take you to the 2017 body builder's manual. It has all sorts of detail about the Ford SuperDuty trucks, but after a first glance I don't choose to dig into it. But if you're interested, then you're welcome to dig away.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...eries_v1-0.pdf
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02-24-2017, 07:13 AM
#67
Mine is DRW, 3.73 diesel 4x4, a 2016. I do not baby it, around town about 14mpg. Highway at 70 to 80mph about 18. Towing my GN on flat ground at 65-70 or so it seems to get between 13 and 14.5 depending on load and traffic. Head winds will kill any of those numbers if they are strong.
02-24-2017, 07:18 AM
#68
Ignore that part of my post about the F-350 SRW. It was true for 2016 and earlier model years but Ford changed the world for the 2017 SuperDuty models.
The following link will take you to the 2017 body builder's manual. It has all sorts of detail about the Ford SuperDuty trucks, but after a first glance I don't choose to dig into it. But if you're interested, then you're welcome to dig away.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...eries_v1-0.pdf
The following link will take you to the 2017 body builder's manual. It has all sorts of detail about the Ford SuperDuty trucks, but after a first glance I don't choose to dig into it. But if you're interested, then you're welcome to dig away.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...eries_v1-0.pdf
02-24-2017, 08:14 PM
#69
Max Tow gives you the same upgraded stabilizer bar as the standard tow. Every thing on the Max Tow package can be bought separately as I did with my 5.0L BUT the upgraded rear Bumper/hitch combo that only gains 100 lbs in tongue rating. Most heavy trailer have tongue weights that are 12 to 13% of total weight, meaning that tongue weight rating is the limiting factor of the hitch.
Standard Tow package:
• 4-pin/7-pin wiring harness
• Auxiliary transmission oil cooler
• Class IV trailer hitch receiver
• Pro Trailer Backup Assist (not included on XL Base or Raptor)
• Tailgate LED (standard on LARIAT and higher)
• Smart Trailer Tow Connector (standard on LARIAT and higher)
• Upgraded front stabilizer bar
Separate options w/Standard Tow Package:
• 3.73 Electronic-locking rear axle
• Integrated Trailer Brake Controller
• 36 Gallon Fuel tank
Max Tow package:
• 3.55 Electronic-locking rear-axle (axle is changed to 3.73 Electronic-locking differential if ordered with Heavy-Duty Payload Package)
• 4-pin/7-pin wiring harness
• 36 Gallon Fuel tank
• Auxiliary transmission oil cooler
• Class IV trailer hitch receiver
• Pro Trailer Backup Assist with Tailgate LED
• Smart Trailer Tow Connector (standard on LARIAT and higher)
• Trailer Brake Controller (TBC)
• Upgraded front stabilizer bar
• Upgraded rear bumper (Only component of Max Tow that can't be optioned with Standard Tow Package
My truck has all the Standard Tow Package components and the available options that make up the Max Tow Package EXCEPT the upgraded bumper. My truck has a higher tow rating than a similar equipped 3.5L Ecoboost and only 700 lbs less than a 3.5L Ecoboost w/ Max Tow package.
02-24-2017, 08:40 PM
#70
Yep, my 2012 FX4 Max Tow has a payload (yellow sticker) of 1,820 on the door. Not bad . . . and I have the Luxury Package, etc.
AFAIK, the 2015 and newer Max Tow does not increase GVWR or RAWR or payload like the earlier trucks. GVWR went up 500 pounds with the Max Tow on a 2012.
AFAIK, the 2015 and newer Max Tow does not increase GVWR or RAWR or payload like the earlier trucks. GVWR went up 500 pounds with the Max Tow on a 2012.
2010 truck had the lower 7200 lbs GVWR, with 3750 lbs front axle rating and 3850 axle rating and a payload of only 1430 lbs.
2012 truck had the higher 7350 lbs GVWR with 3750 lbs front axle rating and 3850 lbs axle rating, and a payload of 1583 lbs.
2016 truck is very similar as well. Has a 7000 lbs GVWR with 3450 lbs front axle and 3800 lbs rear axle rating, and a payload of 1890 lbs.
My truck is heavier due to the larger 9.75" 3.73 ratio axle compared to the lighter 8.8" 3.55 and 3.31 ratio axles. Also the 36 gallon gas tank is also a lot heavier than the smaller 23 gallon gas tank. You could add about another 150 lbs to my payload with those lighter options.
My 2012 weighed 5768 lbs, and my 2010 weighed 5770 lbs, my 2016 weighs 5110 lbs. It's 658 lbs lighter but total axle ratings only dropped to 350 lbs for a 308 lbs gain on axle ratings. Add that 308 off additional axle rating to the 2012 payload of 1583 and you have 1891 lbs, which is right at the actual 1890 lbs of payload I have on my 2016.
The F150s from 2015 and up, have the same higher rated rear axle, higher GVWR, and higher payload to equal the same ratings that the previous generation Max Tow package offered. The upgraded suspension/payload is now STANDARD and not part of the Max Tow Package.
Last edited by Mike Up; 02-25-2017 at 10:38 AM.