WickedFX2

Ok so 13% of the big trailers GVWR is right around 1000lbs so those should be out because with us and our dogs we are left with right around 1000lbs of payload.

WickedFX2

How come my door says 1526lbs but when I searched online last night I found anywhere from 1790-1930 for a supercrew 5.0 2wd..

ragerjr

Any and all options you have on the truck will add weight to the truck so that is why the difference between what is listed and what you have.

ragerjr

I would recommend a max tongue weight of 500-600 pounds. The reason is that gives you 400 to 500 pounds for extra gear and the hitch weight of the WDH. That is 5000 to 6000 GVW TT to stay at 10% tongue weight. Like an earlier post said figure out how gear you plan to take with you and add that into the 500 pounds that you already stated for the family. That will give you what you have left to allow for the weight of the WDH and the tongue weight of the trailer.

Does anyone know the average weight of a WDH? I don't use one because I pull a fifthwheel with a gooseneck hookup.

tomb1269

The S272BH would be the best choice weight wise It the lightest trailer with a huge amount of carring capacity, which means that you can load all the gear in the trailer so as to minimize the payload in the truck. In addition, you do not have to load it full (i.e. 2200lbs of gear) and therefore you can keep you tongue weight down as well. As you had calculated earlier it looks as if you woulc have no problems towing up to the S300BH. As long as you keep the GVWR of the trailer 7000 or less you should be all set as 13% of 7000lbs is 910 plus the 500 lbs of people and dogs your payload would be 1410. Just remember kids get bigger. Also did you include their car seats (if so needed) in your people weight calcuation? The best way to determine your remaining payload is to load up the family, the dogs, etc and get the truck weighted, subtract that from the trucks GVWR refernced on the door.

WickedFX2

Ok, so does everyone come close to the GVWR when they have all the gear loaded up or is there cushion there? Like for the people who pack their house into the trailer lol?

ragerjr

To answer that question some will max it out or go over and some like to have a cushion. That depends on the person, how far they are going, and how experienced they are with pulling a trailer. I myself like to have a cushion if I am going a long distance but for short runs less then 50 miles I will push it to the max. There is a built in cushion with these trucks by the OEM but how much of a cushion IDK. The cushion is a theory of mine due to the fact most people don't look at all the information that is required to tow and the OEM is CYA themselves by putting the ratings on GVWR/GCWR and towing max weights.

smokeywren

13% is about average for the tongue weight of a wet and loaded TT, But many TTs have a higher percentage, including mine with almost 16% tongue weight. I think a better estimate would be 15% tongue weight.

7,000-pound TT with 15% tongue weight would be 1,050 pounds hitch weight. Same trailer with 13% tongue weight would have 910 pounds hitch weight. If you are trying to match a half-ton pickup to a 7,000 pound TT, that 140 pounds in hitch weight can be the difference in being overloaded or not.

smokeywren

Bad advice.

Only a tiny percentage of TTs have only 10 percent tongue weight when wet and loaded for the road. Most have 12% to 13% and mine has over 15%.

I used 12% when estimating my hitch weight, and as a result I'm 100 pounds over the GVWR of my F-150 when wet and loaded on the road because my TT has over 15% hitch weight.

About 50 pounds altogether. It's a handful for an old man trying to stab the shank into the receiver.

jcain

That's what she said