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Old 01-04-2013, 10:42 AM   #861
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I tried to stay out of this discussion as long as I could but...

Part of the quote from atvtinker...
"The air bags "raise" the fulcrum point. This in turn shifts some of the weight back to the front of the vehicle. It also shifts some of the trailer weight back to the axles of the trailer something a WDH can't do."

Huh! If it does it would be almost nothing. I agree with Buck on his last explaination.

Think of WDH as like a bow (as in bow and arrow). Without a string (the WDH) the bow is flat or even lower in the center (like your truck/trailer without WDH). Now add a string(the WDH) and start cranking the tension of the string. The center of the bow (your rear hitch point) goes up and the ends are now bearing more of the weight. That is because your truck hitch area is now under great tension bowing that area up and pushing weight to both ends, the front axle of truck and axles of trailer.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:45 AM   #862
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This is a thread to show your campers being towed...NOT a towing discussion thread.

Would it be possible to get back to pictures???
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I know it has nothing to do with WDH, but I have to show off my new setup





Cl
*** lV Hitch Install... (patent pending..)


Wouldn't you love to see how the trip went...? Good chance he ended up doin' some unintended off
-roadin' somewhere.

Lets see your campers being towed-att0000711.jpg

Check the 'hills' in the background.




How would you like to meet this rig on a two-lane road....coming down the mountain in your direction.....power steering works real good now.




She's hitched up and ready to roll!!
Amazin' how the extra weight smooths out the ride.
Needed to air up the rear tires a bit ('bout 160 psi).



Lets see your campers being towed-att0001022.jpg


Added some super heavy-duty chain for extra support on the tailgate, (note the 'Heavy-Duty 'S' hooks to attach the chain)

Also paid-up for some BIG Number 5/16 sheet metal screws to attach the Reese hitch frame to the tailgate (see 'em there? one on each side...)
Likely two more through the carpet into the floor pan inside....
Yep, probably overkill, but didn't want the possibility of having an axerdent.


Lets see your campers being towed-att0001333.jpg


Most of the time was spent on the front porch whittling down that MASSIVE solid pine 4x4 to fit precisely down into the hole in the ball mount receiver.

Note also - The 14''x14'' piece of 3/8' plywood on the underside of the tailgate to distribute the load more evenly and beef up that tailgate support.

'A MAN CAN'T BE TOO SAFE'...

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Old 01-04-2013, 01:39 PM   #864
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This is a thread to show your campers being towed...NOT a towing discussion thread.

Would it be possible to get back to pictures???
^This came to mind when I was on the previous page.

It is nice to see there are couple people on here disputing the nonsense though. Misinformation should be challenged.


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I know it has nothing to do with WDH, but I have to show off my new setup





Cl*** lV Hitch Install... (patent pending..)


Wouldn't you love to see how the trip went...? Good chance he ended up doin' some unintended off-roadin' somewhere.

Check the 'hills' in the background.

How would you like to meet this rig on a two-lane road....coming down the mountain in your direction.....power steering works real good now. Click the image to open in full size.

She's hitched up and ready to roll!!
Amazin' how the extra weight smooths out the ride.
Needed to air up the rear tires a bit ('bout 160 psi).


Click the image to open in full size.


Added some super heavy-duty chain for extra support on the tailgate, (note the 'Heavy-Duty 'S' hooks to attach the chain)
Also paid-up for some BIG Number 5/16 sheet metal screws to attach the Reese hitch frame to the tailgate (see 'em there? one on each side...)
Likely two more through the carpet into the floor pan inside....
Yep, probably overkill, but didn't want the possibility of having an axerdent.




Click the image to open in full size.
Most of the time was spent on the front porch whittling down that MASSIVE solid pine 4x4 to fit precisely down into the hole in the ball mount receiver.

Note also - The 14''x14'' piece of 3/8' plywood on the underside of the tailgate to distribute the load more evenly and beef up that tailgate support.

'A MAN CAN'T BE TOO SAFE'...
Would love to see the pics. I gots red x's and links to google mail. Bummer, man.
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Yup, that's great, haha!
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Never said that airbags move more weight back to the trailer axles than a WDH.
You didn't? vvv

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The air bags "raise" the fulcrum point. This in turn shifts some of the weight back to the front of the vehicle. It also shifts some of the trailer weight back to the axles of the trailer something a WDH can't do.
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When you tie a truck and trailer together with a WDH you can no longer shift any more weight back to the trailer. You're just tying everything into a straight line so that the entire truck's suspension has to take the load.
This whole part of your comment is false. Have you ever used a WDH? The torsion bars connected to the hitch are torqued up and connected to the tongue which pulls down on the trailer frame which in turn shifts weight back towards the trailers axles and towards the front of the truck as well. Its a sort of opposing force that is distributing the weight.


anyhoo...I'm done debating this. Sorry for going off topic everyone.
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I know it has nothing to do with WDH, but I have to show off my new setup





Cl
*** lV Hitch Install... (patent pending..)


Wouldn't you love to see how the trip went...? Good chance he ended up doin' some unintended off
-roadin' somewhere.

Attachment 178609

Check the 'hills' in the background.




How would you like to meet this rig on a two-lane road....coming down the mountain in your direction.....power steering works real good now.




She's hitched up and ready to roll!!
Amazin' how the extra weight smooths out the ride.
Needed to air up the rear tires a bit ('bout 160 psi).



Attachment 178610


Added some super heavy-duty chain for extra support on the tailgate, (note the 'Heavy-Duty 'S' hooks to attach the chain)

Also paid-up for some BIG Number 5/16 sheet metal screws to attach the Reese hitch frame to the tailgate (see 'em there? one on each side...)
Likely two more through the carpet into the floor pan inside....
Yep, probably overkill, but didn't want the possibility of having an axerdent.


Attachment 178611


Most of the time was spent on the front porch whittling down that MASSIVE solid pine 4x4 to fit precisely down into the hole in the ball mount receiver.

Note also - The 14''x14'' piece of 3/8' plywood on the underside of the tailgate to distribute the load more evenly and beef up that tailgate support.

'A MAN CAN'T BE TOO SAFE'...
I really hope that was done as a joke and not driven on the road!
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I know it has nothing to do with WDH, but I have to show off my new setup





Cl
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Wouldn't you love to see how the trip went...? Good chance he ended up doin' some unintended off
-roadin' somewhere.

Attachment 178609

Check the 'hills' in the background.




How would you like to meet this rig on a two-lane road....coming down the mountain in your direction.....power steering works real good now.




She's hitched up and ready to roll!!
Amazin' how the extra weight smooths out the ride.
Needed to air up the rear tires a bit ('bout 160 psi).



Attachment 178610


Added some super heavy-duty chain for extra support on the tailgate, (note the 'Heavy-Duty 'S' hooks to attach the chain)

Also paid-up for some BIG Number 5/16 sheet metal screws to attach the Reese hitch frame to the tailgate (see 'em there? one on each side...)
Likely two more through the carpet into the floor pan inside....
Yep, probably overkill, but didn't want the possibility of having an axerdent.


Attachment 178611


Most of the time was spent on the front porch whittling down that MASSIVE solid pine 4x4 to fit precisely down into the hole in the ball mount receiver.

Note also - The 14''x14'' piece of 3/8' plywood on the underside of the tailgate to distribute the load more evenly and beef up that tailgate support.

'A MAN CAN'T BE TOO SAFE'...
I saw this quite a while ago and was a bit disappointed. Instead of rigging up a fix for the tailgate, a HEAVY DUTY and EXTENDED tailgate option should had been used. It has support bars (instead of the added, rigged chains) and a built in 5th wheel mounted on the CORRECT tailgate support members!!

I just hate when people do things unsafe and silly like that.
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