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Old 03-29-2013, 10:17 AM
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People here said you couldn't so I stayed away. In reality you can but you have to drill through the plate along with the frame, this would include longer bolts that would be tough to fish through the frame.

I much prefer Roadmaster or Supersprings. I have Roadmaster and don't notice a difference in regular ride. But a world of difference towing!

Plus I don't have to worry about filling the bags, deflating, and longevity.

And I noticed in your picture you have new rims and tires, Lucky Bastard! They look good.

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Old 03-29-2013, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by murf
People here said you couldn't so I stayed away. In reality you can but you have to drill through the plate along with the frame, this would include longer bolts that would be tough to fish through the frame.

I much prefer Roadmaster or Supersprings. I have Roadmaster and don't notice a difference in regular ride. But a world of difference towing!

Plus I don't have to worry about filling the bags, deflating, and longevity.
That what I figured... and yes you're right, Airbags are a pain to deal with if you don't have compressor installed. This is my next project ;-)

Yep, I got cheap winter wheels and they actually look pretty good. The tires give me a crappy and hard ride but they perform amazingly in deep snow.

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Old 03-29-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IronJoce

Didn't want to go there again but we all know towing capacity is not the problem here. You will be above GVWR for sure by few 100 pounds and you will be above GAWR by 400lbs with that 5ver. Yep even if you have max tow and "half ton towable" 5ver.

Your empty hitch is close to 1400 and 1100lbs payload on the rear axel is about the maximum you can wish for with a truck like yours.

I don't want to discourage you but I don't want you to think you can go on RV. net and introduce yourself by saying you're within capacity because you are obviously not and by a good margin.

I personally went to the scale MANY times. My 5ver has a ready to go hitch weight of about 1175lbs, me and my family are 400lbs, I drive a plain FX4 Scab with max tow, my official payload is 1893lbs and still... I'm above limit on the rear axel even with almost 4000lbs to spare on my towing capacity.

Here is a reading of my EMPTY Scab (even the hitch wasn't in the bed) with me and my 60lbs son on-board. 1280kg on the rear axel is 2816lbs. This pic was taken at an official public scale here in QC.

Now stop reading my daddy style post and go get some pictures of that thing

Happy camping
Fair enough. You may well be right but I havnt got any weight readings yet, likely will be very close or maybe even over on payload but I'm not too concerned. I've hauled close to 2000 pounds in a Ranger before, it did it but I wouldn't do it again, lol! They have more weight police on rv net than they do here? Maybe I'll photoshop a super duty under the camper and they will never know, haha! I'm not to concerned about being a few hundred over if that happens to be the case, I'm sure the f150 will do great, I see tons of people doing it with no problems. I'll load the back heavier to keep pin weight down if I have too, lol j/k! I farm so I have much experience driving overloaded vehicles on a regular basis. I plan on going about 40-100 miles from home is all. If it feels unsafe I'll remedy the situation but I'm sure it will be fine. I also plan to pull a jet ski now and maybe a boat in the future behind it but may have a super duty by then if I really get into it and start going long distances. I have no plans to endanger my own life or anyone elses.

I'm going with a gooseneck hideaball and an adapter because I won't be pulling it often or far and I want to keep my bed flat for farm use.

It will be a week or so before they have the hitch parts they said but I will have pictures for sure. Ill post pictures of just the camper in a day or two when I go look at it again, it's 60 miles away.

My bumper is aluminum and the install guy said it was only about 50 pounds heavier than the stock bumper.
Old 03-29-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SultanGris
Fair enough. You may well be right but I havnt got any weight readings yet, likely will be very close or maybe even over on payload but I'm not too concerned. I've hauled close to 2000 pounds in a Ranger before, it did it but I wouldn't do it again, lol! They have more weight police on rv net than they do here? Maybe I'll photoshop a super duty under the camper and they will never know, haha! I'm not to concerned about being a few hundred over if that happens to be the case, I'm sure the f150 will do great, I see tons of people doing it with no problems. I'll load the back heavier to keep pin weight down if I have too, lol j/k! I farm so I have much experience driving overloaded vehicles on a regular basis. I plan on going about 40-100 miles from home is all. If it feels unsafe I'll remedy the situation but I'm sure it will be fine. I also plan to pull a jet ski now and maybe a boat in the future behind it but may have a super duty by then if I really get into it and start going long distances. I have no plans to endanger my own life or anyone elses.

I'm going with a gooseneck hideaball and an adapter because I won't be pulling it often or far and I want to keep my bed flat for farm use.

It will be a week or so before they have the hitch parts they said but I will have pictures for sure. Ill post pictures of just the camper in a day or two when I go look at it again, it's 60 miles away.

My bumper is aluminum and the install guy said it was only about 50 pounds heavier than the stock bumper.
I think you will be fine. I have towed a similar fiver about 5000 miles with no issues. It tows better and gets better mileage than my TT that weighed 3000 lbs less. I added SuperSprings and will be adding Bilstein 4600 series HD shocks to help with the ride.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SultanGris
Fair enough. You may well be right but I havnt got any weight readings yet, likely will be very close or maybe even over on payload but I'm not too concerned. I've hauled close to 2000 pounds in a Ranger before, it did it but I wouldn't do it again, lol! They have more weight police on rv net than they do here? Maybe I'll photoshop a super duty under the camper and they will never know, haha! I'm not to concerned about being a few hundred over if that happens to be the case, I'm sure the f150 will do great, I see tons of people doing it with no problems. I'll load the back heavier to keep pin weight down if I have too, lol j/k! I farm so I have much experience driving overloaded vehicles on a regular basis. I plan on going about 40-100 miles from home is all. If it feels unsafe I'll remedy the situation but I'm sure it will be fine. I also plan to pull a jet ski now and maybe a boat in the future behind it but may have a super duty by then if I really get into it and start going long distances. I have no plans to endanger my own life or anyone elses.

I'm going with a gooseneck hideaball and an adapter because I won't be pulling it often or far and I want to keep my bed flat for farm use.

It will be a week or so before they have the hitch parts they said but I will have pictures for sure. Ill post pictures of just the camper in a day or two when I go look at it again, it's 60 miles away.

My bumper is aluminum and the install guy said it was only about 50 pounds heavier than the stock bumper.
Which gooseneck are you going with?

Also, your front bumper will actually unload the rear axle due to the fact that the front axle is the fulcrum point. A very small amount though.
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Originally Posted by SultanGris

Fair enough. You may well be right but I havnt got any weight readings yet, likely will be very close or maybe even over on payload but I'm not too concerned. I've hauled close to 2000 pounds in a Ranger before, it did it but I wouldn't do it again, lol! They have more weight police on rv net than they do here? Maybe I'll photoshop a super duty under the camper and they will never know, haha! I'm not to concerned about being a few hundred over if that happens to be the case, I'm sure the f150 will do great, I see tons of people doing it with no problems. I'll load the back heavier to keep pin weight down if I have too, lol j/k! I farm so I have much experience driving overloaded vehicles on a regular basis. I plan on going about 40-100 miles from home is all. If it feels unsafe I'll remedy the situation but I'm sure it will be fine. I also plan to pull a jet ski now and maybe a boat in the future behind it but may have a super duty by then if I really get into it and start going long distances. I have no plans to endanger my own life or anyone elses.

I'm going with a gooseneck hideaball and an adapter because I won't be pulling it often or far and I want to keep my bed flat for farm use.

It will be a week or so before they have the hitch parts they said but I will have pictures for sure. Ill post pictures of just the camper in a day or two when I go look at it again, it's 60 miles away.

My bumper is aluminum and the install guy said it was only about 50 pounds heavier than the stock bumper.
I'm no weight police and never insinuated you would be putting others live in danger so we're good there.

I just wanted you to know you'll be above limits by a good margin, no way you'll be within GVWR with that setup. Will your truck do great as you said? No, not at all. Will it do OK, maybe, depends what OK means

That being said drive safe and enjoy camping

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Old 03-29-2013, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IronJoce

I'm no weight police and never insinuated you would be putting others live in danger so we're good there.

I just wanted you to know you'll be above limits by a good margin, no way you'll be within GVWR with that setup. Will your truck do great as you said? No, not at all. Will it do OK, maybe, depends what OK means

That being said drive safe and enjoy camping

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Fair enough, I threw that comment on the because I've seen the weight police up in arms on this thread before and wanted to head them off at the pass so to speak. I didn't mean to insinuate that you were one. I'm interested to see how it performs but will have to wait over a week to find out. Hard to believe it takes that long to get hitch parts. Could be done if I went with a regular 5th wheel platebut I gotta be difficult with the hideaball
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Originally Posted by Watt-maker
Which gooseneck are you going with?

Also, your front bumper will actually unload the rear axle due to the fact that the front axle is the fulcrum point. A very small amount though.
not sure of the exact brand but I think it might be this brand, or very similar too it. These are not the exact parts but are similar products from my understanding, the rv dealer is installing it so I dont know the exact part numbers they use.
B&W Turnover Ball 1310 Gooseneck Hitch : Amazon.com : Automotive B&W Turnover Ball 1310 Gooseneck Hitch : Amazon.com : Automotive

with this style adapter
Ranch Hitch Universal 5th-Wheel-to-Gooseneck Coupler Adapter Andersen 3100 : Amazon.com : Automotive Ranch Hitch Universal 5th-Wheel-to-Gooseneck Coupler Adapter Andersen 3100 : Amazon.com : Automotive
Old 03-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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Holy S ***** that is a lot of money just to have a Hide a Ball!

$110 for Universal rails and $100 for the brackets. I got my Hitch with my camper, so got lucky there

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Okay... I'll play.

Here's my '11 FX4 with my (new to me) 2004 Gulf Stream Conquest 24RBL. I've historically been a tenter, so this is a huge change for my wife and I. This is going to be my 'home away from home' this summer in Dawson, YT.

She's a little dirty due to travelling through snow storms...
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