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Old 08-03-2012, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rigrat2011
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But the issue i have, the v6 isnt natural asperation where the v8 is.
So, do you think the 5.0 would perform better and give you better numbers if you slapped a boss intake or a turbo on it?
Im just stuck on the idea that the v6 is setup closer to being maximizes than the v8 is.
Turbos on a gas or diesel engine really do increase power. And the 5.0 would be a more awesome engine if it were designed for turbos and had them installed.

Yes, the v6 is more maximized than the non-turbo 5L, but it seems to hold up well in stress tests and we all hope it will last a long time without expensive maintenance. But nobody really knows.

Usually a turbo gasser is designed for high speed performance. There's a lot of turbo GTI's out there. But Ford has managed to tweak this ecoboost for more low-end torque, like the turbo diesels. And it works. Have been very impressed with mine so far. Time will tell.
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If my memory serves me correctly volumetric efficiency would mean the 5.0l can have a VE of what 75% or 85%? That would be 3.75l or 4.25l of actual air moving through the cylinder at sea level. A twin turbo 3.5l can get a VE of (I'm guessing) 150%. That would mean it is moving 5.25l of air at about any level.
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Originally Posted by my67falcon
If my memory serves me correctly volumetric efficiency would mean the 5.0l can have a VE of what 75% or 85%? That would be 3.75l or 4.25l of actual air moving through the cylinder at sea level. A twin turbo 3.5l can get a VE of (I'm guessing) 150%. That would mean it is moving 5.25l of air at about any level.
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I'm just guessing on percentages but in simple forms if you compress air into a cylinder you get more volume and can increase the amount of air to a higher percentage than a N/A motor. That being said a N/A motor can go over 100% but I would assume it would be screaming at high RPM's to do so. I'm not an expert by any means and I'm sure these more modern N/A motors have raised the VE percentages but I'm rather sure the VE ratio is always better with a FI motor.
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Originally Posted by rigrat2011

Well... Im not going to make a big argument or steal the thread... But heres How i see things. I could be wrong, and Its Only a theory to me.

But, motor to motor... The numbers seem pretty close. But the issue i have, the v6 isnt natural asperation where the v8 is.

So, do you think the 5.0 would perform better and give you better numbers if you slapped a boss intake or a turbo on it?

Im just stuck on the idea that the v6 is setup closer to being maximizes than the v8 is.

I could be wrong... Im Only stating opinion
No big argument wanted from me either. From what I've heard both engines are neck and neck in mpg when unloaded with the eco having a slight mpg advantage while loaded. Again, not based on anything factual, just mostly the gut feeling I got from readings and findings on the inner-webs from fellow owners, mostly on this forum. It was the gut feeling I got. Was wondering if had a different point of view or info.

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When you said "breathed a bit easier" I thought you were making reference to the difference in displacement as if the 5.0l had an advantage because it was a larger motor and wouldn't have to huff and puff to tow.
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Originally Posted by jjm1024
... From what I've heard both engines are neck and neck in mpg ...
Pretty much what I've seen too. The Ecoboost's main advantage over the 5L is low-end torque, not mpg.
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Originally Posted by my67falcon
When you said "breathed a bit easier" I thought you were making reference to the difference in displacement as if the 5.0l had an advantage because it was a larger motor and wouldn't have to huff and puff to tow.
Youre right...i was.

All Im saying is, if you slap a turbo on a 5.0, then that trailer would seem like nothing.
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Originally Posted by rigrat2011

Youre right...i was.

All Im saying is, if you slap a turbo on a 5.0, then that trailer would seem like nothing.
A stock diesel would pull that trailer better than a turbo'd 5.0l....
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboFx4

A stock diesel would pull that trailer better than a turbo'd 5.0l....
Thats pretty obvious... But the point of my argument is about gasser 3.5 against 5.0.

Its not a fair comparison until you make both engines natural asperation, or both turbo.


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