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Old 09-07-2016, 09:48 AM
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This has been debated back and forth on the forum and the conclusion many reached is no.

From the link below:

"Bottom line - payload capacity is determined for a completely empty truck except for a full tank of gas (no driver); towing capacity, or max loaded trailer weight, is determined with a 150 lb driver."

See this link: https://www.f150forum.com/f82/does-p...1/#post3979254
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
This has been debated back and forth on the forum and the conclusion many reached is no.

From the link below:

"Bottom line - payload capacity is determined for a completely empty truck except for a full tank of gas (no driver); towing capacity, or max loaded trailer weight, is determined with a 150 lb driver."

See this link: https://www.f150forum.com/f82/does-p...1/#post3979254
I did see that link...There is a lot of "I thought it might include a 150lb driver..." and "read the manual". A lot of that started in 2013.

The 2016 brochure says it includes a 150lb driver for payload so I don't know why there is a debate in that link. Unless the brochure and manual differ (haven't checked) I would assume to go with what Ford is telling us? Maybe not?
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Originally Posted by jk70
I did see that link...There is a lot of "I thought it might include a 150lb driver..." and "read the manual". A lot of that started in 2013.

The 2016 brochure says it includes a 150lb driver for payload so I don't know why there is a debate in that link. Unless the brochure and manual differ (haven't checked) I would assume to go with what Ford is telling us? Maybe not?
Could you check your manual? My Acura MDX allows for 3500 travel trailer or 4500lbs boat for towing and it includes for 500lbs of crew and cargo. Things do change, it would be great if it was standardized.
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per the 2016 manual on page 247

1. Locate the statement "The
combined weight of occupants
and cargo should never exceed
XXX kg or XXX lb." on your
vehicle’s placard.
2. Determine the combined
weight of the driver and
passengers that will be riding
in your vehicle.

3. Subtract the combined weight
of the driver and passengers
from XXX kg or XXX lb.

4. The resulting figure equals the
available amount of cargo and
luggage load capacity
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Originally Posted by solarity
Could you check your manual? My Acura MDX allows for 3500 travel trailer or 4500lbs boat for towing and it includes for 500lbs of crew and cargo. Things do change, it would be great if it was standardized.
Never happen. Manufacturers don't want people to be able to easily compare. They intentionally make it confusing, and intentionally list limits in advertising that are not real world but that people latch onto, i.e. soundbites The fact that these are not valid in the real world is then irrelevant to many, because "Ford said so". Similar to what a presidential candidate may say, and then not be able to back up with facts. They heard he/she say it, so it must be true.

F-150 does not include people in Payload.

They also don't include if your wife/girlfriend lies about their weight for your very important calculations, or the fact that when you buy your truck you weigh 190 but then over the next few years you let yourself go and look like Bluto.

"Payload? Nah, my weight doesn't impact it"


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Until you put the truck on some scales you don't know. Find out how much it really weighs and subtract that from the GVW to find how much you can carry.
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Hi, which brings up another question. Why do some F-150's like mine have a GVWR of 7700 lbs. and mine is 7650 lbs.? What made this difference of 50 lbs?
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Just an FYI, don't subtract the weight of the hitch, it is already factored in. I don't remember where I read it, but they allow 75# for the hitch.

In any case, without actually weighing the vehicles, its just a guesstimate. Weigh and compare, that is the only way you will determine if you are legal or not.
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Originally Posted by acdii
Just an FYI, don't subtract the weight of the hitch, it is already factored in. I don't remember where I read it, but they allow 75# for the hitch. In any case, without actually weighing the vehicles, its just a guesstimate. Weigh and compare, that is the only way you will determine if you are legal or not.
A hitch is not factored in payload, as this is the max allowable weight of passengers, driver, and cargo. So, if you are max loading up with concrete or hog feed in the truck bed, the hitch being included in the payload makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by Velosprout
A hitch is not factored in payload, as this is the max allowable weight of passengers, driver, and cargo. So, if you are max loading up with concrete or hog feed in the truck bed, the hitch being included in the payload makes no sense.
Like I said, I didn't remember where I saw it, but I did find what I saw.

http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/tow...-the-standard/

In addition to a vehicle’s base curb weight, the “Tow Vehicle Total Weight” (TVTW) for testing for ¾- and 1-ton trucks allocates 150 pounds for the driver, 150 pounds for a passenger, the weight of all tow package equipment, and 100 pounds of optional equipment (hitch ball, weight distribution bars, and such) split evenly between the front and rear axles.
But it was for the Superduty trucks. My bad. Totally unrelated to the thread, sorry.


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