uzikaduzi

WDH's do put some weight back on the trailer axles but i have no idea how much to be honest... I've seen different numbers all over the place. this guy has real world numbers that should be somewhat similar to what you should expect I think.

https://www.f150forum.com/f82/my-cat...umbers-256875/

the dry hitch weight means nothing and you need a minimum 10% (i like 12-13% tongue weight) of the loaded weight of the trailer. what you're looking at doing isn't ideal but I do think you can manage... I would make some upgrades though. tires and wheels would be first and strongly consider some type of spring helper.

brulaz

When loaded, hitch weight can be much higher. With both of my trailers, advertised dry hitch weight was about 12%, but when loaded they ended up at 15%. Depends upon the trailer, how big is the passthru, how many batteries, and so on.

Also the 20% back onto the trailer is sort of an average and depends upon a lot of factors. My actual value is only 12%.

Estimating loaded tongue weight and how much ends up on your truck is the toughest part of your planning. In my case, it's always been worse than I planned.

So if you want to be cautious, estimate 15% of loaded trailer weight for tongue weight, and then reduce that by only 12% to account for the WDH. And add in the weight of the WDH to your payload calculations.

Ncm86

So pretty much an 09 platinum wih the max tow package and 17000 gcvw really can't tow much of anything?!

uzikaduzi

the platinum package especially with the screw is really marketed towards people that use their trucks as cars more or less.

brulaz

Sad but true. Pretty truck, but not a work truck in terms of payload.

If it's any consolation. You're not the first person to find this out. It happens all the time on this board.

And many half-tons, not just Ford, are the same or worse when you get into the fancy half-tons. RAM is notorious.

Ncm86

the trailer im looking at is GVW 7300lbs and dry hitch weight 435lbs. with myself wife and 3 small kids....wont work?

uzikaduzi

7300 pd trailer will have between 730-1095 (10-15%)pd tongue weight and if you load it so it's less than that, it's dangerous and on the lower end you may experience sway. if you actually had it at 730 you have 420 pds left... you and the wife have to be 300+ together? not sure on the kids... if they are very young, you're under payload, but as they get older you'll be over... realistically, I think you're tongue weight should be 12-13% which is 950ish leaving 200 left. I think you'll be over payload but your truck will not explode and kill everyone if your a little over payload. ditching the 20" rims and getting a load e tire will help a lot. it's doable but not ideal.

Ncm86

Ok so so I'm assuming I shouldn't purchase this truck. Any idea what models I should be looking at, 09-11 need a screw and 4x4. Would definitely like leather with the kids and like I said the trailer will have a GCVW of 7500lbs. Oh yea either 5.4 or 5.0......I understand about the ecoboost but not willing to give up my v8 just yet. And do I need the max tow package?

uzikaduzi

the xl and the xlt are going to likely have the best payload but are the lowest packages but i think the xlt has optional leather seats (or $500 from clazzio) there was a guy on here with a newer fx4 that had 1800 pd payload with an screw but i'm not sure if leather seats are standard or an option for those. it's hard to say for sure because there are so many things you can add to these packages that they are all slightly different. I'm guessing that's why it's hard to find a payload chart for anything but the current year trucks. have you considered a 250? you could get any package you want and have more than enough payload... they do ride stiffer but they are much better than they used to be. what kind of sucks is you can get an f150 with 3100 pds of payload capacity but it's an xl single cab with an 8 ft bed

KR Kodi

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Well...I'm in the same boat as you are as you consider that Platinum.

My King Ranch doesn't even have the max tow package, so I'm even more restricted than you might be.

However, to solve my overweight condition, I got this Trailer Toad:




The Trailer Toad carries the entire tongue weight, so all the truck has to do is have the power and brakes to pull and stop the trailer. I have my entire payload capacity, limited as it is, to carry people and stuff in the cab and bed.

Here's a thread I just started about it. I haven't done any towing with it yet other than a few miles today around my local area, but the things have millions of miles pulling large trailers where the tow vehicle just can't handle the tongue weight - just like our problem:

https://www.f150forum.com/f82/finall...8/#post3447163


Bob