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Old 10-25-2014, 05:43 PM
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Also bags are a great addition for towing.
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Originally Posted by Meathead
....All the F 150s excluding the Raptor will pull 10,000 lbs.
Huh??? Whachew talkin' 'bout, Meathead???

Absolute minimum tongue weight for a 10,000 lb trailer would be 1000 lbs. More normal minimum would be 12%, or 1200 lbs of tongue weight.

The hitch on trucks with the standard tow pkg have a limit of 1050 lb tongue weight, and Max Tow trucks are up to 1150 lbs.

My truck's GCWR is 15,500 and the truck weighs 6085 lbs EMPTY (6180 with my bed liner and tonneau cover).

15,500 - 6085 = 9415 lbs for the max weight of a trailer if the truck is EMPTY!

I'm WAY less than that with my bed liner and tonneau, and me, my wife, and some luggage in the cab. After loading the truck I've got about 500 lbs remaining for tongue weight - you can figure out what loaded trailer weight I can tow with that, but it's gonna be a helluva lot less than 10,000 lbs!!!

SOME (very few) F150s can tow a 10,000 lb trailer. Certainly not ALL!
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I appreciate all of the info guys. I will certainly be picking up a WD hitch before heading on the road next summer. These tips will help me out a lot in choosing.
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Here is the new TT:


My dog making sure everything is up to her standards:


And the guy I bought it from threw this in for free! I am pretty excited to take it out next summer.
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I was told the newer F150s properly equipped can tow up to 11000 lbs.
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I just looked up the capacity of my 11 ecoboost and it is 11,300 lbs. This was on a ford site.
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Originally Posted by KR Kodi


Huh??? Whachew talkin' 'bout, Meathead???

Absolute minimum tongue weight for a 10,000 lb trailer would be 1000 lbs. More normal minimum would be 12%, or 1200 lbs of tongue weight.

The hitch on trucks with the standard tow pkg have a limit of 1050 lb tongue weight, and Max Tow trucks are up to 1150 lbs.

My truck's GCWR is 15,500 and the truck weighs 6085 lbs EMPTY (6180 with my bed liner and tonneau cover).

15,500 - 6085 = 9415 lbs for the max weight of a trailer if the truck is EMPTY!

I'm WAY less than that with my bed liner and tonneau, and me, my wife, and some luggage in the cab. After loading the truck I've got about 500 lbs remaining for tongue weight - you can figure out what loaded trailer weight I can tow with that, but it's gonna be a helluva lot less than 10,000 lbs!!!

SOME (very few) F150s can tow a 10,000 lb trailer. Certainly not ALL!
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Tongue weight is managed by a wd hitch. Take a look on Fords website about the towing capacity before you think that I am just spouting nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Meathead
I just looked up the capacity of my 11 ecoboost and it is 11,300 lbs. This was on a ford site.


MOST Ecoboost F150s have a "max loaded trailer weight" listed in the sales brochure of 9500 to 9800 lbs.


If you have 11,300 then you have at least the Max Tow package and possibly the Heavy Duty package.


However....all those published "max loaded trailer weight" numbers are completely misleading - virtually NO F150 will be able to tow those weights that are published. Those weights are for a plain Jane/no frills/bare bones/no options/low trim level truck. As soon as the truck has a single option added it won't be able to achieve those weights.


MOST F150s will only be able to tow a trailer that weighs a couple thousand lbs less than those published "sales" weights.


In most all cases, PAYLOAD CAPACITY IS EVERYTHING!!!


The payload capacity published on the tire sticker on the driver's side door of each truck will normally be the most restrictive weight that will determine what weight of a trailer it will be able to tow.


The payload capacity of most F150s is around 1400 to 1600 lbs.


What you load in the cab and bed of the truck when towing is another important factor that will determine how much payload capacity you have remaining to carry the tongue weight of a trailer.


With 11,300 max trailer weight, you probably have the Max Tow pkg with a GVWR of 7700 lbs, and may have a payload capacity in the area of 1800 lbs. It's very, VERY rare to have a Heavy Duty pkg that would raise the GVWR to 8200 lbs.


MOST F150s will have a GVWR in the range of 7000 to around 7500 lbs.


MOST F150s will have a payload capacity of around 1400 to 1600 lbs.


Let's use a kinda median payload capacity of 1500 lbs, and you just travel with two lightweight people (340 lbs) and a light load of luggage (60 lbs) in the cab, subtract 400 lbs from 1500 lbs and you have a generous 1100 lbs remaining for a WDH and the tongue weight of a trailer.


A WDH weighs around 100 lbs, so you've got 1000 lbs remaining for the trailer's tongue weight.


Common towing wisdom says that the tongue weight should be around 12% of the trailer's weight - and an 8333 lb trailer will have a 12% tongue weight of 1000 lbs, which would be the max our truck above would be able to tow and remain within limits. Actually, it may be around 8500 lbs due to the WDH redistributing some of the tongue weight to the tow vehicle's front axle, and back to the trailer's axles.


If you have a little more payload capacity, the tongue weight can go up. If you carry more people (a family of 4 with the puppy dog) in the cab, and 100 lbs of firewood in the bed, the tongue weight will need to be reduced and your max trailer weight will probably be in the 6500 lb range.


So.....MOST F150s will be limited to a max trailer weight in the 6000 to 8500 lb range.


Very few F150s will be able to tow a 10,000 lb trailer and remain within their GVWR, GAWRs, and GCWR - with the GVWR/payload capacity normally being the most limiting factor.



Those weights published in the "sales brochure" are put there to make the truck look better than the competition, and there are not many no frills/no options trucks out there that will be able to pull those weights.

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Ok. I did more research. I will now attempt to pull my foot out of my mouth. There is only one combination of equipped f150 that can legally tow the max capacity. I apologize for not being thorough in my research. It looks like legally most can tow about 8000 lbs max. I stand corrected. Thanks KR Kodi.
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Originally Posted by Meathead
It looks like legally most can tow about 8000 lbs max.

Depends on your definition of "legally".


My 2012 F-150 Lariat SuprCrew 4x2 EcoBoost has GVWR of 7,100 pounds with payload capacity per the yellow sticker of 1,366 pounds. My rig includes DW, 40-pound puppydog, some tools in the toolbox, full of gas, a lightweight shell, and my TT that grosses 4,870 pounds when wet and loaded on the road for a long trip. And my wet and loaded F-150 with the TT tied on and the ProPride hitch properly adjusted exceeds the GVWR of the F-150 by 100 pounds. That may not be illegal, but it definitely breaks Ford's rule that I should NEVER exceed the GVWR of my F-150.

My tongue weight is about 600 pounds, or close to the TT average of 13%. Imagine how much overloaded I would be with a with an 8,000-pound TT with the average 13% tongue weight of 1,040 pounds.

4x4s with 7,200 pounds GVWR would be even more overloaded with my TT that grosses less than 5,000 pounds. And about 90% of all 2011-up F-150s have GVWR of 7,100 or 7,200 pounds. The max tow pkg that adds about 500 pounds GVWR is rare, the the HD Payload pkg that has 8,200 pounds GVWR is extremely rare on any F-150 used to tow a TT. My daughter in Knoxville tried to buy a new F-150 with the HD payload pkg, and there were none available in stock east of the Mississippi. Most are ordered by fleet customers, and few are ordered for stock. She could order one and wait two months for delivery, but she bought an F-250 off the lot instead. She loves her F-250.

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