king nothing

[MENTION=83704]smokeywren[/MENTION] Care to elaborate on this? By my calculations that 7700 GVWR TT will have a MAX tongue weight of 1155# (7700 x .15). My 6 lug f150 has a payload capacity of 1760#. By my calculations that means that I have 605# for occupants and cargo in a worst case scenario (TT loaded to GVWR with a full 15% tongue weight). The OP has a max-tow equipped truck as well, so should have similar numbers. Please let me know if I'm missing something here but it seems like either one of our trucks could pull that 7700#GVW trailer with no problems

smokeywren

605 pounds of payload capacity disappears in a hurry when you load mommy and daddy and Bud and Sis and Rover or Kitty in the cab, plus installed head for your WD hitch, plus jack(s) and jack base for changing a trailer tire in a wet muddy ditch, plus a toolbox full of tools just in case, plus enough campfire wood to get you through the trip, and a full tank of gas. Did you add any aftermarket weight to your pickup? Such as a spray-in bedliner, cab steps, tonneau cover?


The CAT scale will alert you to any underestimating you did of weight in your rig. I stop at a CAT scale often when towing.

king nothing

Point taken. I know i would have no problem hooking up to that trailer and pulling it anywhere. In fact, the trailer im looking at has a GVWR of 8550# and i wont hesitate to hook it up to my truck. By my calculations I'll be around 300# over payload which doesn't bother me in the slightest

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

If an F150 has the Max Tow pkg, it will have a much higher payload capacity than one with just the standard tow pkg. Your 1760 lb capacity is much greater than most.

The Max Tow pkg also includes an increase in the hitch tongue weight limit. The std tow pkg is 1050, and with Max Tow it goes up to 1150. Here's the sticker on my std tow pkg hitch:




Also, a WDH will weigh around 100 lbs, so when you attach that to your hitch the max tongue weight of the trailer will go down by the weight of the WDH.

However, with a very high 1760 lb payload capacity and an 1150 lb tongue weight capable hitch, you should be able to load a 7700 lb trailer to get a max 12% to 13% of that on the tongue, which would keep you under those limits.

If you're under the GAWRs and GCWR as well, then you should be good to go!

Butt.....most f150s will max out with a trailer weight well below 7700.
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brulaz

With my 7500# loaded trailer and more than 2000# payload MaxTow, I was 200# under the GVWR but 130# over the rear GAWR, and only 20# under the receiver rating. (Think I've fixed that rear GAW now, we'll see)

But we do carry a lot in the bed of the truck. That's the whole point of a pick-up right?

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

Yikes! You've got a 1 ton pickup truck!!

Mine has a sticker payload of 1115#, and with my bed liner and tonneau I'm a true 1/2 ton truck at 1020# of payload capacity.

You've seen my Trailer Toad - I couldn't pull squat without it! With the Trailer Toad carrying the entire tongue weight I'm just limited by my GCWR and can easily pull an 8000# trailer even with my wimpy payload capacity.

With no weight pushing down on the hitch, I've got the full payload capacity for people and luggage in the cab, and can still put several hundred more lbs of spares, tools, and other track support junk in the bed when hauling my car to track events.

My enclosed car hauler is about 6500# and I'm not close to any limits when pulling it with the Trailer Toad.



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kameronth

Sorry to bring back an old thread. I'm going to give the Equal-I-Zer a shot. With my TT's GVWR being 7700lbs am I okay with the 1000/10,000 lb rated hitch?

This is the hitch:

smokeywren

No. Many TTs (including mine) have up to 15% tongue weight. If you load your TT to the gills and have 15% tongue weight, that's 1,155 pounds on the ball. Overloaded. So move up to the Equal-I-Zer hitch with 1,200 pounds max tongue weight rating.


Also check the weight rating of your receiver. If it's less than 1,155 pounds, then I'd replace the receiver with a heavier-duty receiver. (On my 2012 Lariat with the regular tow pkg, the OEM receiver is rated 1,050 pounds with a WD hitch.) Here's a hitch with 1,200 pounds hitch weight capacity with a WD hitch:
http://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2011_Ford_F-150.htm

brulaz

One advantage to getting a heftier WDH is that you have to lift the truck+trailer less to lever the bars in place. With my currently maxxed out WDH (1000# bars, 1130# TW), the electric tongue jack can barely do it.

I'm thinking of going to 1400# WDH (TW may increase also).

kameronth

Thanks for the info. I'll pull the trigger on the 1200 lb hitch.

If I don't load my TT to the max will there be any negative effects of using the 1200 lb hitch, such as handling/sway issues? I guess to simplify, will the 1200 lb be overkill if the TT is not fully loaded? Just the wife and I right now so I don't think I'll be loading it all the way up with most short trips.

My receiver shows WD max gross 11,500, WD max tongue weight 1,150. I think for now I will keep it on. If we start adding kids to the mix down the road I will look into upgrading.