Helper bags should be standard.
#42
Senior Member
I talked to the dealer I bought my 20ft trailer from. He said he isn't fond of WDH, especially when you are way under the maximum tow rating for your vehicle. For car haulers he suggested getting the weight in the trailer positioned correctly to balance the tongue weight. I can see how it could be beneficial in a travel trailer where you can't reposition weight and where you are over the hitch weight.
#43
Senior Member
Some people just beat their trucks to death. In a small business setting costs can be more important than safety. Or maybe they figure the truck will not last long anyway, so "who cares?". I worked for a nursery once, and on a farm for a couple of summers, and that was their attitude.
Low side flat bed trailers can reduce their tongue weight down to 10% without causing sway. So a loaded 5000# flatbed can tow with 500# tongue weight without a WDH (ok for an F150). But anything over that should really have a WDH.
High side travel trailers should really have 12% or more tongue weight which will quickly exceed the receiver rating, payload and rear gawr as the trailer weight increases.
#44
Senior Member
I will say yes, helper bags are a great addition and I am all for them. They get the stance back and do improve handling immensely However, they do not replace other important equipement like a WDH. They should work in concert with such equipment.
You have no basis for your arguement other then "I have seen" or "I never" or "I read on the internet." There is no factual basis for your statements. Just because you have not seen it does not make it true, accurate or safe.
#45
just because you're truck can/has done it doesn't mean you should do it. Air bags are great for what they do which is improve ride quality for additional payload. they do not increase payload or towing capacity if you don't believe me go to air lift's site and check. air lift themselves doesn't recommend using air bags instead of WDH's which would likely be in their interest if they worked the way you think they do. you don't think taking a a little over 100 pds of each tire has much effect? people add less weight per tire in the bed of 2wd trucks in the snow to get better traction and that's just traction ( and i promise you 200 pds of weight in the bed is a huge difference driving in the snow)... on the front traction is more important because the extreme majority of your braking comes from the front as well as the steering.
#46
Senior Member
just because you're truck can/has done it doesn't mean you should do it. Air bags are great for what they do which is improve ride quality for additional payload. they do not increase payload or towing capacity if you don't believe me go to air lift's site and check. air lift themselves doesn't recommend using air bags instead of WDH's which would likely be in their interest if they worked the way you think they do. you don't think taking a a little over 100 pds of each tire has much effect? people add less weight per tire in the bed of 2wd trucks in the snow to get better traction and that's just traction ( and i promise you 200 pds of weight in the bed is a huge difference driving in the snow)... on the front traction is more important because the extreme majority of your braking comes from the front as well as the steering.
uzikaduzi, cstm2500 still will not believe you. He is just smarter than all of the other forum members combined. He is even smarter than the folks who build and sell air bags. I'll bet he even knows more than an encyclopedia. My brother-in-law is like that, expert at everything, dumber than a box of rocks.
#47
uzikaduzi, cstm2500 still will not believe you. He is just smarter than all of the other forum members combined. He is even smarter than the folks who build and sell air bags. I'll bet he even knows more than an encyclopedia. My brother-in-law is like that, expert at everything, dumber than a box of rocks.