Buck50HD

Not sure where you got 5640 but the online specs shows a max possible payload of 2310 for a crew 4x4 F150HD. That suggests the lightest config is 5890 lb. My truck is 6029 lb wet weight per the door sticker. Yours will be heavier as a lariat. I would expect an actual payload of 2000lb but could be more or less by a little.

Maybe you looked up the weight of a 2WD?

Don't have the link, but there is a Ford document that lists all of the options and how much they weigh. I agree that the payload and tow ratings are very confusing and the manufacturers don't seem to communicate the details. All you see are the max #'s in all advertising. Very misleading. Imagine the unsuspecting guy buying an F250 diesel lariat with every option and find out the door sticker is 1900lb

SkiSmuggs

Limit the dry pin weight to 1600 lbs and get a fiver with the "max turn" design (extended pin and cut away corners at the front. You won't need a slider hitch or a Reese Sidewinder/Revolution. Check the Cougar X-Lite or High Country series. Lots of light fivers available and you certainly have more payload than I do. Mine pulls very comfortably.
Your towing capacity and payload is close to an F250. You will be fine.

jaykay

Hello Everyone,

Thank you, again for the replies. Answers to a few questions:

-We took delivery of the truck two weeks ago.
- The door sticker lists the GVWR, the GFAWR and the GRAWR, tire pressure specifications, but no payload. Do not know why the payload is not listed. Both my husband and I looked. Amazed that Ford can keep it such a mystery. Yet, my hunch is that if we ever have a payload related problem they will try to void the warranty. We tend to keep our vehicles for a decade of so; we took the extended 125,000/10 year.
- The salesman looked at the factory delivery paperwork on the truck. He advised that the ship weight off of that document. I am beginning to think that he is less adept at this than I am!

We are going to fill the truck up and take it to scale to get it weighed with me, husband, grandson and dog on board. Hopefully early this week. That will clarify one piece of the puzzle.

Thanks again!

acadianbob

I would shoot for a travel trailer with a tongue weight of no more than 900 pounds dry or a 5er with a pin weight of no more than 1,200 pounds dry.

The advice on national forest roads is right on. We purposely held ourselves to 25 feet of trailer length because of the twisty roads.

willieboy

The payload or max cargo is listed on the yellow stocker on the drivers door. I guarantee it is there, unless your dealer removed it.

My Lariat is a 2wd, and has 2435 lbs payload capacity the way it rolled out from the factory. I have the moonroof, but did not order steps, bed liners, etc... I did order the man step tailgate. I have since ordered steps, LineX'd the bed and added a RollX bed cover. All told, I am guessing ~200 lbs of weight reduction. Figure for my truck, 2 adults and 2 kids, plus gear and the hitch=750 lbs; I have ~1500 lbs for the pin weight. You can add and subtract from there. 4wd adds about 150 lbs of additional weight to the truck, so you will need to remove that from the payload as well.

tomb1269

Not sure why there is a 250 lb difference. Normally the difference is 150 lbs as that is the planned weight of the driver. Dry Weight + Driver - GVWR = Max payload or at least it should. Max Trailer weight (or its GVWR) should not exceed your remaining payload divided by 10% (perferable 12.5% which tends to be the dry tounge weight % for RV trailer). Ie. GVWR = 8200 truck w/ people & gear = 6950, remaining payload = 1250. Max trailer GVWR @ 10% tongue = 12500 (exceeds max trailer tow rating so use tow rating) @ 12.5% tongue = 10000. For 5ers the pin should be 15 to 25% which would be trailer of @ 15% = 8333 gvwr @ 25% = 5000 gvwr. 5ers may tow better, but they require a lot more truck. A well packed / balanced trailer will tow just as well, particularly when its not maxing out the tow vehicle.
Please note: Trailer weights referenced are the trailers GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING, not the dry weight.

jaykay

Found it! Yellow sticker - lower right hand corner. 2007 #'s is the max payload!

Which does not match what the certified CAT scale "said" today... But we will use/follow the 2007 max payload figure on the sticker.

Truck weight today with a full tank of gas (freshly filled to full - 36 gallons) and my 6'4" 280 pound hubby = 6,440 lbs. Subtracting hubby (280 verified today) and gas (assuming 216 pounds for 36 gallons) , the curb weight of truck with Lariat package, tonneau cover, moon roof... is around 5944. That is, assuming the CAT scale is as accurate as they claim.

Again, thanks to all for lots of good guidance.

JK

PS. Buck, you were right on!

tomb1269

It hits the originall payload number on the head for a lesser outfitted model. Originally you had 2310, the sunroof, added lariat package items and tonneau cover easilly take up the 300lb difference. With the weight from the scale that leaves you 1760 in payload. You had stated previously that with you, your husband, hitch etc you were around a 1000lbs, take your husband off the 1000lbs as he is included in the weight from the scale and you have 720 lbs leaving you a loaded weight of 1040lbs. If you use the equations I listed before you get;
Travel trailer GVWRs of 10400 @ 10% tongue and 8320 at 12.5% tongue
5er @ 15% pin 6933
If you stay with a travel trailer you could drop the weight of the 5er hitch (estimate 250lbs) and gain another 2000 to 2500lbs of GVWR capacity to a travel trailer. A 10000 lb GVWR travel trailer is a very nice and large unit, and most likely have a polar kit for winter use as well.

Buck50HD

Actually, per the door sticker, your truck should be 6193 lb with a full tank (they generate the number assuming a full tank otherwise you wouldn't be able to drive it). Add the 280lb driver and it would be 6473. I don't know what the full scale error is on the CAT scale but is very likely over 30-40 lb difference you are seeing. I'd say Ford was right on with the sticker.

93Cobra#2771

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Definitely travel trailer.


As far as a Hensley, it's around 200 hundred pounds (roughly 100 more than a standard WDH).

But what's nice is that hookup is actually easier than a standard hitch.

Your yellow sticker sounds like it was right in the money.