Help me understand payload more.
08-11-2016, 10:33 PM
#11
Senior Member
2013 had 1680lbs payload- max tow..
the 2016 should have had max tow..??? rated for 1740?( have to go check)...
dealer knew I needed this or no deal...lol
and the camper was loaded -beer food clothing extra bedding - etc...
the 2016 should have had max tow..??? rated for 1740?( have to go check)...
dealer knew I needed this or no deal...lol
and the camper was loaded -beer food clothing extra bedding - etc...
Last edited by Steve Osborne; 08-11-2016 at 10:36 PM.
08-11-2016, 10:51 PM
#16
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Thread Starter
I looked up the weight of the 04 ram 2500 4x4 with diesel and it says 6,120 pounds. I figure trailer was 2,000 so I think I would be in tow limits right? Here was a pic of my old 2012 xlt same setup towing it home again
08-12-2016, 07:14 AM
#19
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The numbers on the door sticker tell you how much weight you can put in the truck. Not towing capacity
The towing capacity of that truck is 9200 lbs as seen here.
https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...F150_Sep11.pdf
The key number to look at is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of 7200 lbs. The total weight of the truck, the driver, passengers, accessories and cargo shouldn't go over 7200 lbs.
You really need to weigh your truck. If you subtract the stated cargo capacity of 1093 from 7200 that means your truck weighed 6107 when it left the factory. Get the truck on some scales, subtract that number from 7200 lbs and that is how much weight you can put in it without overloading the suspension. Be sure to include your weight as well as passengers.
1093 lbs isn't much, you must have a lot of heavy options in your truck. I also have a 2014 4X4 Screw with the 5.0. My trucks actual weight on scales is 5720 lbs and my cargo capacity is 1621 lbs which adds up almost exactly to my stated GVW of 7350 lbs. My towing capacity is only 7700 lbs however.
While technically your truck can pull 9200 lbs you have to include tongue weight into GVW. A 9200 lb trailer will have a tongue weight close to 1200 lbs. You'd be well over GVW even without a driver, passengers or any cargo in the truck so 9200 lbs isn't practical in that truck. The factory hitch is also only rated for 5000 lbs and 500 lbs tongue weight. Unless you upgrade then 5000 lbs is the max towing capacity.
You also have to factor in the larger tires. They are about 10% greater circumference than factory which would reduce the engines power by at least 10%.
When you were carrying 1900 lbs in the bed you were well over what the suspension was rated for, but well within what the drive train is rated for. Towing the Dodge truck was probabay over max towing capability too. Especially after tongue weight was factored in.
Most truck owners go over the weight limits occasionally. I've done it, and driving short distances with care it can certainly be done. You will put extra wear on the truck and if done often you will break stuff. If you plan on towing or hauling that much on a regular basis you need a bigger truck. Doing it a few times over the life of the truck probably won't hurt if you drive carefully.
The towing capacity of that truck is 9200 lbs as seen here.
https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...F150_Sep11.pdf
The key number to look at is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of 7200 lbs. The total weight of the truck, the driver, passengers, accessories and cargo shouldn't go over 7200 lbs.
You really need to weigh your truck. If you subtract the stated cargo capacity of 1093 from 7200 that means your truck weighed 6107 when it left the factory. Get the truck on some scales, subtract that number from 7200 lbs and that is how much weight you can put in it without overloading the suspension. Be sure to include your weight as well as passengers.
1093 lbs isn't much, you must have a lot of heavy options in your truck. I also have a 2014 4X4 Screw with the 5.0. My trucks actual weight on scales is 5720 lbs and my cargo capacity is 1621 lbs which adds up almost exactly to my stated GVW of 7350 lbs. My towing capacity is only 7700 lbs however.
While technically your truck can pull 9200 lbs you have to include tongue weight into GVW. A 9200 lb trailer will have a tongue weight close to 1200 lbs. You'd be well over GVW even without a driver, passengers or any cargo in the truck so 9200 lbs isn't practical in that truck. The factory hitch is also only rated for 5000 lbs and 500 lbs tongue weight. Unless you upgrade then 5000 lbs is the max towing capacity.
You also have to factor in the larger tires. They are about 10% greater circumference than factory which would reduce the engines power by at least 10%.
When you were carrying 1900 lbs in the bed you were well over what the suspension was rated for, but well within what the drive train is rated for. Towing the Dodge truck was probabay over max towing capability too. Especially after tongue weight was factored in.
Most truck owners go over the weight limits occasionally. I've done it, and driving short distances with care it can certainly be done. You will put extra wear on the truck and if done often you will break stuff. If you plan on towing or hauling that much on a regular basis you need a bigger truck. Doing it a few times over the life of the truck probably won't hurt if you drive carefully.
08-12-2016, 09:47 AM
#20
Senior Member
Thread Starter
The numbers on the door sticker tell you how much weight you can put in the truck. Not towing capacity
The towing capacity of that truck is 9200 lbs as seen here.
https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...F150_Sep11.pdf
The key number to look at is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of 7200 lbs. The total weight of the truck, the driver, passengers, accessories and cargo shouldn't go over 7200 lbs.
You really need to weigh your truck. If you subtract the stated cargo capacity of 1093 from 7200 that means your truck weighed 6107 when it left the factory. Get the truck on some scales, subtract that number from 7200 lbs and that is how much weight you can put in it without overloading the suspension. Be sure to include your weight as well as passengers.
1093 lbs isn't much, you must have a lot of heavy options in your truck. I also have a 2014 4X4 Screw with the 5.0. My trucks actual weight on scales is 5720 lbs and my cargo capacity is 1621 lbs which adds up almost exactly to my stated GVW of 7350 lbs. My towing capacity is only 7700 lbs however.
While technically your truck can pull 9200 lbs you have to include tongue weight into GVW. A 9200 lb trailer will have a tongue weight close to 1200 lbs. You'd be well over GVW even without a driver, passengers or any cargo in the truck so 9200 lbs isn't practical in that truck. The factory hitch is also only rated for 5000 lbs and 500 lbs tongue weight. Unless you upgrade then 5000 lbs is the max towing capacity.
You also have to factor in the larger tires. They are about 10% greater circumference than factory which would reduce the engines power by at least 10%.
When you were carrying 1900 lbs in the bed you were well over what the suspension was rated for, but well within what the drive train is rated for. Towing the Dodge truck was probabay over max towing capability too. Especially after tongue weight was factored in.
Most truck owners go over the weight limits occasionally. I've done it, and driving short distances with care it can certainly be done. You will put extra wear on the truck and if done often you will break stuff. If you plan on towing or hauling that much on a regular basis you need a bigger truck. Doing it a few times over the life of the truck probably won't hurt if you drive carefully.
The towing capacity of that truck is 9200 lbs as seen here.
https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...F150_Sep11.pdf
The key number to look at is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of 7200 lbs. The total weight of the truck, the driver, passengers, accessories and cargo shouldn't go over 7200 lbs.
You really need to weigh your truck. If you subtract the stated cargo capacity of 1093 from 7200 that means your truck weighed 6107 when it left the factory. Get the truck on some scales, subtract that number from 7200 lbs and that is how much weight you can put in it without overloading the suspension. Be sure to include your weight as well as passengers.
1093 lbs isn't much, you must have a lot of heavy options in your truck. I also have a 2014 4X4 Screw with the 5.0. My trucks actual weight on scales is 5720 lbs and my cargo capacity is 1621 lbs which adds up almost exactly to my stated GVW of 7350 lbs. My towing capacity is only 7700 lbs however.
While technically your truck can pull 9200 lbs you have to include tongue weight into GVW. A 9200 lb trailer will have a tongue weight close to 1200 lbs. You'd be well over GVW even without a driver, passengers or any cargo in the truck so 9200 lbs isn't practical in that truck. The factory hitch is also only rated for 5000 lbs and 500 lbs tongue weight. Unless you upgrade then 5000 lbs is the max towing capacity.
You also have to factor in the larger tires. They are about 10% greater circumference than factory which would reduce the engines power by at least 10%.
When you were carrying 1900 lbs in the bed you were well over what the suspension was rated for, but well within what the drive train is rated for. Towing the Dodge truck was probabay over max towing capability too. Especially after tongue weight was factored in.
Most truck owners go over the weight limits occasionally. I've done it, and driving short distances with care it can certainly be done. You will put extra wear on the truck and if done often you will break stuff. If you plan on towing or hauling that much on a regular basis you need a bigger truck. Doing it a few times over the life of the truck probably won't hurt if you drive carefully.