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Old 12-17-2015, 05:05 PM
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IIRC there is a spline difference. Standard is 31, HD Payload trucks were either 34 or 35.
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Originally Posted by ragerjr
Also I just doubled checked about the frame for MY10 truck w/Tow Package and MY10 Truck w/Max tow and the frames are the same. So the only thing that I can come up with in regards to the differences between 7700# and the 7200# versions is the springs, 3.73 gears, and the upgraded rear bumper. Both have the 9.75 ring gear (at least mine does). I don't believe that 3.73 gears will make a difference in the GVWR, so I would throw that change out. I have not ever figured out what the upgraded rear bumper is, so if anyone knows what that is or does compared to the regular bumper please let us know.
It's not really the bumper that is different. The actual hitch and the way it is mounted to the frame is different. I thought I recalled seeing that the rear axle is slightly different for Max Tow. Also, the front suspension has stiffer bushings. I called Ford and talked to them about this before I ordered my '12 Max Tow.

It's interesting because the GVW goes up 500 pounds but the payload capacity only went up 350 pounds. So there is some extra weight in there somewhere going from Regular Tow to Max Tow.
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Originally Posted by Cover Dog
IIRC there is a spline difference. Standard is 31, HD Payload trucks were either 34 or 35.
Cover Dog, do you have a source where you got this information? I have been looking for it and can't find it. Please share where your information came from. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
It's not really the bumper that is different. The actual hitch and the way it is mounted to the frame is different. I thought I recalled seeing that the rear axle is slightly different for Max Tow. Also, the front suspension has stiffer bushings. I called Ford and talked to them about this before I ordered my '12 Max Tow.

It's interesting because the GVW goes up 500 pounds but the payload capacity only went up 350 pounds. So there is some extra weight in there somewhere going from Regular Tow to Max Tow.
What are your GAWR for front and rear? That is very interesting in the fact that the payload goes up only by 350#s. My GAWR Front is 3900# and Rear is 3850.
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I have not ever figured out what the upgraded rear bumper is, so if anyone knows what that is or does compared to the regular bumper please let us know.
Max Tow hitch receivers usually have higher WDH weight ratings than reg tow receivers. And if the hitch receiver has an attachment point on the bumper (not sure about this), the heftier bumper may explain the different ratings.

Just a wild guess ...
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Cover Dog, do you have a source where you got this information? I have been looking for it and can't find it. Please share where your information came from. Thank you.
That would be in the F150 body-builder's source book.
Rear axle specification section.
Don't have a link but you can probably google it.

Beware though, they are occasional mistakes in them.
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I was looking at the 2010 Sourcebook and the Base Curb Weight difference between the Max Tow SC 4x4 5.4 and a SC 4x4 5.4 (no tow) is 209# (which I would say is the hitch and aux trans cooler but don't know for sure). The max payload diff is 290#, front axel base weight diff is 61# and rear base weight diff is 148#.
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Originally Posted by brulaz
That would be in the F150 body-builder's source book.
Rear axle specification section.
Don't have a link but you can probably google it.

Beware though, they are occasional mistakes in them.
I found it in the source book and according to the 2010 Sourcebook the splines are the same between the HD/MAX Tow/Reg truck. The differences is between 4x2 (31) and 4x4(34).
Understand about the mistakes.
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Originally Posted by brulaz
Max Tow hitch receivers usually have higher WDH weight ratings than reg tow receivers. And if the hitch receiver has an attachment point on the bumper (not sure about this), the heftier bumper may explain the different ratings.

Just a wild guess ...
very well could be the case. I do know that there is no way that I could ever put a ball on my bumper because there is no room between the bumper and the hitch below. I will have to crawl under the truck and look to see how it is attached. I have done it before but don't remember now. My max TW for a WD on my hitch is 1050 IIRC. Not sure if the max tow for 2010 was higher or not. I know the 2011 and up from what I have read on here from people that have them is higher.
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For the purpose of litigation and warranty nothing you do to your truck will change any of the GWR. of the components or the truck as a whole. The GWR is set at the factory and chiseled in stone.
Some up grades will make it handle and perform better but nothing will change the weight RATEING.


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