F150 and a fifth wheel???
03-30-2013, 06:20 PM
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F150 and a fifth wheel???
Good afternoon F150 Forum.
We are totally new to this website and also to Canada, as we are originally from Scotland.
Anyway we have been round various forecourts looking at travel trailers and fifth wheels. Our vehicle is a 2012 F150 platinum with the 6.2lt engine, and tow package.
After reading many many articles online about what we can tow and what we shouldn't tow, we thought we would ask you guys to help us out here, as some say we can tow with a sliding hitch in the short box and some say don't even go there, so we are very confused.
The fifth wheel we are looking at is a Crossroads Cruiser with a dry weight of 9206lbs, which we initially thought would be too heavy until the owner gave us his F150 ecoboost to tow it with and we were surprised how relatively easy it pulled and also stopped, we weren't up any steep inclines, but it managed a gentle slope no problem. The owner guy reckons our truck will be ok, but he is also the seller!!!!!! So we are interested to read any comments please.
We are totally new to this website and also to Canada, as we are originally from Scotland.
Anyway we have been round various forecourts looking at travel trailers and fifth wheels. Our vehicle is a 2012 F150 platinum with the 6.2lt engine, and tow package.
After reading many many articles online about what we can tow and what we shouldn't tow, we thought we would ask you guys to help us out here, as some say we can tow with a sliding hitch in the short box and some say don't even go there, so we are very confused.
The fifth wheel we are looking at is a Crossroads Cruiser with a dry weight of 9206lbs, which we initially thought would be too heavy until the owner gave us his F150 ecoboost to tow it with and we were surprised how relatively easy it pulled and also stopped, we weren't up any steep inclines, but it managed a gentle slope no problem. The owner guy reckons our truck will be ok, but he is also the seller!!!!!! So we are interested to read any comments please.
03-30-2013, 07:15 PM
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Welcome! A trailer with a dry weight of 9200lbs will be in the neighborhood of 10,500lbs when loaded. What is the pin weight on the trailer?? I'm thinking even if you have the HD payload pkg and max tow pkg on your truck it will not be enough. You will be more than likely over your rear axle rating, GVWR and very close to your max tow rating and that's only if you have the max tow and HD payload packages on your truck. I would hate to see you make a expensive mistake. There are a bunch of guys on here that tow fifth wheels with there F150's that will probably chime in and help out.
03-30-2013, 07:36 PM
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With that dry pin weight you may run into a few problems. First, payload on a crew 4x4 HD payload truck is around 2300 lb with no options. For that 5th, you'd probably be 2000 lb pin with even light loading, leaving 300 lb for a driver, hitch and any other passengers/cargo. Not going to work with a 4x4. If you have a 2wd, you may have enough payload BUT... That brings me to the 2nd issue. Rear axle rating is 4800 lb. The truck will probably already have 2800lb on the rear, leaving you 2000 lb for pin weight, hitch and part of the weight of the passengers (a portion of passenger weight is on the front axle). Not going to work.
Although I legally tow a 5th with a HD payload F150, I wouldn't tow one with a 9k+ dry weight.
Although I legally tow a 5th with a HD payload F150, I wouldn't tow one with a 9k+ dry weight.
03-30-2013, 07:39 PM
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What is your trucks payload capacity?? Look at the sticker on the inside of your drivers door. It is yellow and white and says Tire and loading information on the top . Under that is will say The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed: xxx pounds. Do you have the max tow and HD payload packages??
03-30-2013, 09:06 PM
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There you go! Way too much pin weight for your truck. I have max tow and a 1400 lb dry pin weight and I am over by a few hundred. Not that it has been any problem, but you will be over by 600-800 lbs or more when fully loaded. Without HD Payload, you should probably stick to a travel trailer.
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03-30-2013, 09:44 PM
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the F350 has a GVWR of 11,100. Tow 16,400?
The F250 has a GVWR of 10,000 tow 14,100?
( I'm going by memory right now, but it's close)
The truck (250/350) crew 4x4 weigh about 8400lbs each, so u can see that tongue weight COULD be an issue depending on how well loaded the truck is with passengers, fuel and stuff.
GCVWR on both is about 23,500lbs, but I don't recommend (neither does anyone else) getting close to your max.
All of these trucks can get your trailer going down the freeway at 90mph. That easy. It's managing the load and more importantly, stopping the load short and sweet that is more critical. If you got weighed on the road with that F150 and a 9,000lb trailer you would get a ticket for being overloaded. Worse, if you couldn't stop safely and an accident occurred, you would have a liability because you overloaded your capacity.
The F250 has a GVWR of 10,000 tow 14,100?
( I'm going by memory right now, but it's close)
The truck (250/350) crew 4x4 weigh about 8400lbs each, so u can see that tongue weight COULD be an issue depending on how well loaded the truck is with passengers, fuel and stuff.
GCVWR on both is about 23,500lbs, but I don't recommend (neither does anyone else) getting close to your max.
All of these trucks can get your trailer going down the freeway at 90mph. That easy. It's managing the load and more importantly, stopping the load short and sweet that is more critical. If you got weighed on the road with that F150 and a 9,000lb trailer you would get a ticket for being overloaded. Worse, if you couldn't stop safely and an accident occurred, you would have a liability because you overloaded your capacity.
