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Old 11-06-2016, 07:34 PM
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Default F150 Ecoboost for 8k lbs?

A salesman (herein lies the problem, maybe) was telling me the new e-boost F150 can pull 9000 lbs. and gets great mileage when not pulling.
Our 25' camper, with product we sell weighs roughly 8k.
I need to pull this rig nearly monthly to sales.
I was leaning towards a F250........but need educated on ecoboost PLEASE!
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Pulling the weight is usually no problem for an Ecoboost 150. However, the bigger issue is with your Payload. If you already own a 150, take a picture of your yellow sticker payload rating on the driver's side door jam and that'll give the community a better picture of your payload.

If you're in the market for a tow vehicle and haven't bought anything yet, then that's better because hopefully you'll get a tow vehicle more suited to your needs vs what some salesman tells you.
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Originally Posted by oldster
A salesman (herein lies the problem, maybe) was telling me the new e-boost F150 can pull 9000 lbs. and gets great mileage when not pulling.
Our 25' camper, with product we sell weighs roughly 8k.
I need to pull this rig nearly monthly to sales.
I was leaning towards a F250........but need educated on ecoboost PLEASE!
thanx
ole John
Did he tell you pulling 9K pounds you'll get 8 to 9 mpg!!
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Once a month is fine for an F150. I'd recommend a 2.7L. They are built better than a 3.5 using CGI blocks. You'll get 22+ mpg not towing and 11-12 towing.

If it's not a daily driver then get a 250.
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Make sure to get one with the payload package and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk87
Once a month is fine for an F150. I'd recommend a 2.7L. They are built better than a 3.5 using CGI blocks. You'll get 22+ mpg not towing and 11-12 towing.

If it's not a daily driver then get a 250.
The OP said they need to tow 9K lbs. Per the 2015-2017 F-150 towing guides the max tow on any 2.7L model is between 8100 lbs and 8500 lbs and requires the 3.73 rear end. To get above that you would have to move to either the 5.0L V8 or 3.5L Ecoboost. They would also likely need the HD Payload package to handle the tongue weight.
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Originally Posted by old_programmer
The OP said they need to tow 9K lbs. Per the 2015-2017 F-150 towing guides the max tow on any 2.7L model is between 8100 lbs and 8500 lbs and requires the 3.73 rear end. To get above that you would have to move to either the 5.0L V8 or 3.5L Ecoboost. They would also likely need the HD Payload package to handle the tongue weight.
Good point. If it was less than the 2.7L ratings then I'd go with that every day of the week. Wait....I did.
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Depending on how it is equipped it will pull it. But those trucks are meant for the guy who want a daily driver that can pull a heavy load on rare occasions. If you're going to pull that much on a regular basis it will be cheaper in the long run to buy a diesel f250.
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Agreed with the above. The yellow sticker is the key item when you are buying to tow. I did not buy to tow, then a year later, decided to get a travel trailer, and that is when I found all the little gotchas when it comes to towing. If you buy the truck first, you then have to match the trailer to the truck, but if you already have a trailer, then you shop for the truck.

As mentioned, the EB does get decent MPG, provided you learn how to properly drive it to get that MPG, it is WAY too easy to get lousy gas mileage and hate the truck if you are heavy footed, and when towing, regardless of the trailer unless its a flatbed with no frontal area, the MPG will be under 10 MPG.

The truck you are looking for will need to have at the very least 1900# payload if you wish to carry anyone but yourself, so you are looking for either a regular cab with an 8' bed, or extended cab with the long bed, a Screw with a 6.5' bed "might" have this payload, but you have to be careful of any options added post production as they take away from the payload.

The other thing to consider is that the heavier the trailer the most intense the driving will be, a heavier truck will make for a less stressful towing experience.

My truck is a EB screw RWD with a 5.5' bed, and only a 1470# payload which limits me to 7000# max so I had to shop carefully for the travel trailer, which eliminated a lot of them right from the start, the one I settled on is 7100# GVWR, and thankfully loaded comes in at 6300#, however that leaves me with only a couple hundred pounds capacity in the truck, so limits me to the generator and fuel in the bed and my kids in the cab.

Your first step, weigh the tongue of the trailer, add in what you think you would be carrying in the truck, then based on those numbers go shopping for your truck and look at the yellow sticker first, if that number is above your number, then you have an idea what packages are available, then you can shop by sticker online. Hopefully this will help you find the truck you like and do the job you need.
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Originally Posted by oldster
I was leaning towards a F250........but need educated on ecoboost PLEASE!

The 3.5L EcoBoost engine can pull a mountain. But it cannot haul the hitch weight of that mountain without being overloaded unless it has the heavy duty payload package (HDPP). Dealers don't stock F-150s with the HDPP, so you have to order it and wait about two months for it to be delivered.


So plan ahead, order exactly what you want that Ford will build, and you'll probably be perfectly happy with your very special F-150.


Caveats: HDPP is not available with a shorty bed or with luxury trim. You can order a Lariat, but not the luxury packages available on the other Lariats. Here are the paraphrased pertenant restrictions for the 2015 HDPP, and I suspect they are still the same for the 2017:


Increases GVWR to 7,850 on XLT and Lariat.
Optional on XL, XLT base and mid, and Lariat base.
Not available with:
2.7L engine, 122" wheelbase on XL and XLT, or 145" wheelbase on XL, XLT or Lariat. IOW, n/a with a short bed.
Requires max trailer tow pkg when ordered with 3.5L EcoBoost engine (Max tow includes the integrated trailer brake contoller (ITBC))
Includes 3.73 E-locking axle, 9.75" gearset, upgraded springs and auxiliary transmission oil cooler, heavier-duty tires and wheels and a few other items.

If you try to tow an 8k to 9k tandem axle trailer with a normally-loaded F-150 that does not have optional HDPP, you're probably going to be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150. So plan ahead and order exactly the F-150 you need.

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