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You can see one I just did below. I tried a King Ranch and Platinum, but couldn't find the HD package. I also tried a Lariat with the 2.7 EcoBoost and wasn't able to get the HD.


However, when selecting a Lariat, I had to have at least a 6-1/2' bed with a SCrew (5.5' wouldn't do it), or an 8' bed with a SCab.


So....I just tried a couple models, and was able to get HD with an XLT or Lariat with a SCab with 8' bed, or SCrew with 6.5' bed, and either the 3.5 EcoBoost or 5.0L. I was able to get the HD with either a 4x2 or 4x4.



Here's an example:
2015 Ford F-150

Model Edit

• 2015 Ford F-150 LARIAT SuperCrew®, 6-1/2' Box, 3.5L V6 EcoBoost® Engine, 6-Speed Automatic Electronic Transmission w/Tow/Haul Mode, 4X4, 3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
  $45,915

Packages S4 Edit

• 500A
  $0
• Heavy-Duty Payload Package
  $1,695
• Max Trailer Tow Package
  $695
• Power Equipment Group
  $0

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smokeywren

Yeah, the HD Payload pkg is not available with a shorty bed.


Here are the rules:
Increases GVWR to 7600 lbs on XL and 7850 on XLT and Lariats.


Availability: Optional on XL, XLT base, XLT mid, and Lariat base. (so you must choose one of those)


Not available with:
2.7 engine
122" WB on XL or XLT (regular cab shorty)
145" WB on XL, XLT, Lariat (Supercab with 6.5' box or SuperCrew with 5.5' box)
XL/XLT sport appearance or Chrome appearance pkg.

Requires trailer tow pkg with 5.0L engine or max trailer tow pkg with 3.5L Ecoboost engine.

Includes:
3.73 e-locker
LT tires (17" load range E on XL, or 18" load range C on XLT and Lariat)
Upgraded springs and auxiliary tranny oil cooler


So when on page 1 of the online Order guide, be sure you meet the above rules as well as choose 3.73 e-locker axle if you want the HD Paylad pkg to show up within the packaged options screen. Afrter you check HD Payload pkg, then all the other requirements such as tires and springs will be included in the specs. DO NOT try to change the bed to a shorty or the axle ratio to something other than 3.73 e-locker, else the HD Payload pkg disappears.

Kenferg1

I guess I must be dumb about these things, but why is ordering the HD Package so limited. It seems you should be able to get it on just about everything unless there is an engineering reason not to.

brulaz

My conspiracy theory is that Ford wants you to spend more money on a Superduty.
That's the RAM philosophy; their 1500's have very low payloads.
And IIRC GM used to make a HD, but stopped.
Maybe Ford will stop making HDs someday as well.

smokeywren

The current HD Payload package first was available on 1997 F-150s. Then they changed the name to F-250 Light Duty (LD) for '99 model year. It was obviously an F-150 body and not the old F-250 HD body or the new F-250 SuperDuty body. Ford quickly determined that was a mistake so they've been F-150 with HD Payload package since the Y2K model year.

Dusty Boots

Just got my 2014 Scab 5.0L STX Sport 4x2 weighed yesterday at the scales and with 3/4 of a tank of fuel, Husky floor liners up front and a TonnoPro hard tonneau cover, it weighed in at 2620 kg/5775 lbs with me in it (280 lbs)
Seeing as it has the tow package and has a GVWR of 7100 lbs, I will have a max payload of just under 1325 lbs with 3/4 tank of fuel, or about 1300 lbs with a full tank.

logspec1

Well this has turned out to be a lot harder than I thought. I am not sure what the deal is but I have been to 4 different Ford dealers in 2 states and I have found only 3 2015 F150s with the 3.5 ecoboost. Most come with the 5.o and the rest with the 2.7. I took the option to build my own on line then see what I could find at dealerships. Found out the same thing you guys have, the options are limited when building a custom truck. They even would not let me have my outside color when I changed the inside color from beige to grey? But I made my truck and am going back to the dealers and say"this is what I want" find it! I like the 2013 F150 I have but just need more room inside, the grandkids are getting bigger!

smokeywren

That's never worked for me. None with my exact specs were in stock anywhere within 1,000 miles of me. And because the dealer has to pay mileage to get the new truck hauled in from another dealer, the cost increases with how far away you find your truck in stock at a dealer willing to make a "dealer trade" with your dealer. My limit was within Texas and Oklahoma, but no luck in finding my truck in stock anywhere.


So I ordered my '99.5 F-250 and my 2012 F-150. Both required about 7 weeks order and ship time. So it seems like I waited - and waited - and waited some more. But it finally arrived and I had exactly the truck with exactly the available options I wanted and was willing to pay for.


The 2015 F-150 assembly line is going full blast now, so order and ship time should be back to the norm of 6 to 8 weeks for your exact truck. So slow down, smell the roses, order your truck, and wait.



I recently had the same problem with my car. I wanted a new Mazda Miata MX5 roadster with the power retractable hardtop (PHRT). I live in the desert, so I wanted a white car with white top and a tan interior, same color combo as my F-150 and my Venza. But Mazda doesn't offer that combo. No white PRHT on a white car. I could order a white on white ragtop, but I didn't want a ragtop. A no tan interior. So I had to get some other color combo. I compromised on a grey car with mocha (coffee with cream?) seat inserts in an otherwise black interior. Not a good combo for the desert, but otherwise I love the little car. And it is beautiful when it's clean.

Mike Up

Just about, but not completely. The weight on the trucks payload (axles) will be diminished with a weight distribution hitch as some weight will go back to the trailer axles. At Rv.net, it seems a round about average is 80% which includes the WDH own weight.

Your truck doesn't seem to be optioned to do heavy work so with such a low 1360 lbs payload and a family, you'll be looking at really small travel trailers or larger Pop Ups. Otherwise you'll likely go over the GVWR and overload the truck. Doing so may make emergency maneuvers difficult while towing, but in the same, regular towing 'may' seem fine as many use this an excuse to overload their trucks.

Since a WDH is roughly 100 lbs, I'm assuming you have a 600 lbs tongue. Using an average 80% of that 600 lbs to the truck axles and 20% to the trailer axles (including the hitch's own weight), you'd be putting 480 lbs on the truck axles. That 80% average is just that, and average and could be heavier based on poor hitch adjustment or the truck's suspension.

With a 600 lbs "loaded" tongue weight, you're talking about a very small travel trailer anyhow. Hek my smaller 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH was right about 700 lbs when loaded. The Sport Trac towing the trailer had a 1290 lbs payload and a 740 lbs rated integrated factory hitch. A nice smaller tow vehicle with a 131" wheelbase (same as Chevy Avalanche).

Roughly, you can expect anywhere from 1200 lbs to 2000 lbs of additional weight over the makers brochure spec weight when loading. Lower with no water in the fresh water tank or much food or clothes.

Seeing such a low tongue weight, most TTs in that range don't have good payload to load a lot anyhow so lets use the 1200 lbs number.

Also with dual axles, again, an average tongue weight is about 13% of the loaded trailer. Once again, it's an average so it could be higher or slightly less.

600 lbs/.13 = 4,615 lbs loaded, 4,615 - 1,200 lbs = 3,415 lbs brochure spec weight. That leaves some smaller trailers. Here's a nice Starcraft that would fit into that weight range. Here's some pics.This is a single axle trailer so tongue weight 'may' be a bit higher. Funny this travel trailer doesn't really offer anything over previous Starcraft Pop Up in terms of features, other than hard walls. Today, the travel trailer will probably the cheaper of the two as Pop Ups prices have shot up.

You'll definitely need to weigh your rig to make sure you'll be within your GVWR and axle ratings.

Good luck

***SORRY, don't know what happened but this site may have been hacked. I posted links to pictures but there seems to be imposter links all through my post pointing to "ADs". Sorry if you get frustrated trying to find my links and get these "ADs" instead. Maybe the webmaster can stop this.***

Mike Up

Yes, you'll want at least a 36 gallon tank. Had a 25 gallon tank in my previous 2008 Sport Trac towing my previous 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH There's times I ran almost to empty looking for a gas station on very rural highways. With only 8 - 9 mpg towing, that 25 gallon tank emptied quickly.