Does payload rating include a full tank of gas?
#11
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NO!!! The payload capacity DOES NOT include a driver. It DOES include a full tank of gas!!!
Take a look at this link:
http://fordf150lexingtonky.com/f-150...best-business/
Scroll down a short way to "Calculating Payload Capacity", and you'll see the payload capacity is the GVWR (max weight the truck can weigh all loaded up) minus the "curb weight". And it says the curb weight is:
"...the curb weight is the weight of the F-150 alone, without cargo or passengers, but including full tank of gas and fluids – on the curb, ready to go."
Every F150 has a sticker on the driver's side door with the GVWR, and on the tire pressure sticker you'll find the payload capacity. This is for each individual truck, and the sticker has the VIN on it. The weight of the truck as it comes off the production line with a full tank of gas is subtracted from the GVWR, and that weight goes on the tire pressure sticker as the payload capacity of that particular truck.Now, as far as the calculation of "max loaded trailer weight", that is a whole different process!! Take a look at the statement on the bottom of page 2 on the link below, which takes you to a brochure with towing info for the 2014 F150:
http://www.eddieyaklinford.com/Media...4_f150_tow.pdf
The statement says:
"....Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight assumes......and driver only (150 pounds)...."
Bottom line - payload capacity is determined for a completely empty truck except for a full tank of gas (no driver); towing capacity, or max loaded trailer weight, is determined with a 150 lb driver.
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#12
Thanks for the thesis but you would of seen that I came to that conclusion if you had read past rhe first 8 words of my post.
#13
Senior Member
at least his thesis takes the guesswork out... the fact that a driver weighs half a tank of gas isn't exactly the most scientific approach
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#16
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Some manufacturers do include a 150 lb driver in the payload calculation (Ram does for sure). To my knowledge all include a full tank of gas. I would not expect Ford to include it because (at least until very recently) they arrived at tow and payload ratings by first removing all sorts of "unnecessary" equipment like bumpers, spare tires and even centre consoles. GM was almost as bad.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/for-sha...yload-ratings/
http://blog.caranddriver.com/for-sha...yload-ratings/
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#19
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I pulled up the 2016 Towing Guide for Ford:
Base Curb Weight
is the weight of the vehicle including a full tank of fuel and all standard equipment. It does not include passengers, cargo or any optional equipment.
Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW)
is the Base Curb Weight plus actual Cargo Weight plus passengers. It is important to remember that GVW is not a limit or specification – it is the actual weight that is obtained when the fully loaded vehicle is driven onto a scale.
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
is the maximum allowable weight of the fully-loaded vehicle (including passengers and cargo). This number – along with other weight limits, as well as tire, rim size and inflation pressure data – is shown on the vehicle’s Safety Compliance Certification Label, located on the left front door lock facing or the door latch post pillar (see next page). The GVW must never exceed the GVWR.
So a full tank of fuel, whatever size you pick IS included but no people, other options, or other "stuff" is included. As always, the best answer is to weigh your full vehicle...
Base Curb Weight
is the weight of the vehicle including a full tank of fuel and all standard equipment. It does not include passengers, cargo or any optional equipment.
Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW)
is the Base Curb Weight plus actual Cargo Weight plus passengers. It is important to remember that GVW is not a limit or specification – it is the actual weight that is obtained when the fully loaded vehicle is driven onto a scale.
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
is the maximum allowable weight of the fully-loaded vehicle (including passengers and cargo). This number – along with other weight limits, as well as tire, rim size and inflation pressure data – is shown on the vehicle’s Safety Compliance Certification Label, located on the left front door lock facing or the door latch post pillar (see next page). The GVW must never exceed the GVWR.
So a full tank of fuel, whatever size you pick IS included but no people, other options, or other "stuff" is included. As always, the best answer is to weigh your full vehicle...
Last edited by SailorSam20500; 04-20-2016 at 10:40 PM. Reason: extra lines included in original version
#20
Junior Member
Am I looking at this wrong? My payload sticker says 1796 based on 5528 curb weight. I weighed the truck with a full tank and me in it and no wife, cargo etc. It weighed 6200! If I subtract that from my GVWR of 7650 I have a 1450 payload. My trailer tongue weight is 1040 loaded, so that leaves me 410 for wife, dog, gear etc. I removed the camper shell (200) to give me a little more room for safety. Sounds right to me, does it to anybody else?