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Does payload rating include a full tank of gas?

Old 08-10-2013, 02:45 PM
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I'm getting my truck/trailer set up for a long trip next week and am doing some calculations. My truck is rated at 7200 pounds GVWR (regular tow package, no hd payload) and about 1250 pounds payload. I'm assuming that includes a full tank of gas? I have the 36 gallon tank so a full tank weighs about 216 pounds.
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Yes, it does include fuel.
Read the manual.
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Includes full tank and I believe 150 pounds for driver before you start using pounds from payload. Check your truck weight on the scale with you and a full tank of gas.
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Originally Posted by natorade
Includes full tank and I believe 150 pounds for driver before you start using pounds from payload. Check your truck weight on the scale with you and a full tank of gas.
Nope, not the driver. Just the fuel.
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Originally Posted by brulaz
Nope, not the driver. Just the fuel.
My door sticker must be wrong then. I weigh 210 and with a full tank of gas with me in it, it's only 50-60 pounds into the payload.
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Originally Posted by natorade
My door sticker must be wrong then.
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Could be. Another guy here said that his payload was too low.

Or the scales could be off by 150#.

My yellow sticker says: "The combined weight of occupants plus cargo should never exceed ..."

Most everybody agrees that "occupants" includes the driver.
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Read the manual.
You get to have a 150 lb driver to tow a trailer at the max rating.
The driver is part of the payload.

"My door sticker must be wrong then." It may be, It wouldn't be the only thing that might be wrong about these trucks.
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Originally Posted by Twisty
Read the manual.
I've read the 2011 F150 manual. On page 257 it gives steps for determining your truck's load limits. Here they are, simplified:

1) Locate the Yellow Sticker payload number.
2) "Determine the combined weight of the driver and passengers that will be riding in the vehicle."
3) Subtract "the combined weight of the driver and passengers" from the Yellow sticker payload.
4) "The resulting figure equals the available amount of cargo and luggage load capacity"

Then it goes on to talk about tongue weight.

Summary: driver weight (150# or whatever) is NOT included in Ford's payload number.

You get to have a 150 lb driver to tow a trailer at the max rating.
We are talking payload, not tow capacity, or GCWR.
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Finally hit the CAT scale this weekend with a full tank and after subtracting the known weight of everybody (driver + 2 passengers), 150 lb for my 5th hitch, and a little bit of gear, it was right at the sticker value.

The payload sticker takes into consideration a full tank of gas but not a driver. Your weight is subtracted from that value.
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Hmm I was looking into this as well. I've heard 150 lbs. driver as well somewhere but that was 150 lbs and a HALF tank of gas. A half tank on a 36 gallon tank weighs around 150# conveniently enough. I think this is where people get the 150# driver from. So you can look at it either way - with a full tank of gas OR 150# driver plus a half a tank of gas.

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