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countering tongue/pin weights

Old 03-19-2013, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 11screw50

Yeah but if you're ~200# over with an empty 5er, you'll be way way over when loaded. Rule of thumb I've always heard for a TT is add 1000# to empty weight, a 5er is probably more since you've got that much more space. And pin weight on a 5er is a higher percentage too.

A lot of payload numbers make no sense...just like a lot of tow ratings don't either. They play games with the numbers to push you where they want you to be.
The 5 was loaded.
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I don't think I'd worry about being 200-300lbs over payload, if you were loaded like you were ready to hit the road, when using a F250/350. How did the truck sit? The only thing I'd add would be airbags but I also like having on-board air, especially when towing.
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Originally Posted by Watt-maker
I don't think I'd worry about being 200-300lbs over payload, if you were loaded like you were ready to hit the road, when using a F250/350. How did the truck sit? The only thing I'd add would be airbags but I also like having on-board air, especially when towing.
I only had to put 55 in the bags to sit level. Fx4 f250s sit dead level from the factory so I don't have the rake to help level when loaded.
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I agree with watt-maker I wouldn't stress too much about being that close on payload when you have lots to spare in your FAWR and RAWR, how are you on GC?
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Originally Posted by ecobeest
I agree with watt-maker I wouldn't stress too much about being that close on payload when you have lots to spare in your FAWR and RAWR, how are you on GC?
Thousands to spare
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Originally Posted by jcain
Thousands to spare
I think I'd rather be 200# over payload then to offset trailers weight distrubution and risk moderate to heavy tail wag. I would look at taking the spare out and putting it in the trailer, and that will shift about 100lbs to the trailer, and anything else that makes sense. If you have GC to spare then leverage the trailer. 100# on the trailer adds only 15 to 25 lbs on the truck in payload (assumed 5er). And I will agree some what with using air bags, its not so much as transfering weight around but that the proper stance of the tow vehicle will make everything else work better, ie braking, and trailer break activation.
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Not as much you can do with a 5er, but I always lock the majority of the cattle in the rear section to limit the pin weight. Old man also puts more of the extra stuff when towing the 5er in the back or over the camper axles rather than using the storage in front to limit some.


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