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Grod205 01-28-2014 09:17 PM

Confused about towing??
 
Sorry to ask another question thats probably been anwsered like ten times over but these acronyms have me confused? Anyway, here soon enough, not sure exactly when, we are trying to get into a camper. Anyway, we are thinking about a cougar xlite 28rbs which i believe has a dry weight of 6338 (could be wrong). Lets just say for numbers sake i add 1000 pounds to it so 7338. I guess the question is can my truck pull it? I think i can but the acronyms and numbers are starting to confuse me. Any way i have a 2013 platinum with max trailer package, gvwr 7650, 3.73, ecoboost. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks.

Steve Osborne 01-28-2014 10:14 PM

payload will be the downfall.....loaded truck plus tongue weight....

Milton6001 01-28-2014 10:14 PM

As discussed in many other threads, the total weight of the trailer is no problem. You need to find out the pin weight (if it is a fifth wheel), or tongue weight (if it is a travel trailer). You need to take that number plus the weight of everyone and everything that you plan to have in your truck. That total needs to be less than or equal to the payload rating of the truck (sticker on drivers door).

smurfs_of_war 01-28-2014 10:16 PM

Answered while I was typing. NM.

Buck50HD 01-28-2014 10:33 PM

Probably more important than payload is the rear axle rating with the max tow trucks. It's still only ~4050lb.

For example, a max tow crew 157" will weight the same as my HD payload truck. I scaled my truck and it has 2600lb on the rear axle with a full tank. This means I have 2200lb remaining before I hit the 4800lb rating. Coincidentally, my payload sticker is 2171 lb. So, since I have to sit in the seat and most of my weight is on the front axle, I would never be able to overload my axle IF I stay within the 8200GVWR.

With your truck, the axle rating is 4050 lb which means you have only 1450-1500 lb before you overload it. Since your payload is probably higher than 1500, you could potentially overload your axle even if you're within the GVWR.

xcntrk 01-28-2014 10:37 PM

You'll be right at the top of your payload. Platinum is probably the heaviest therefore least amount of payload available before hitting GVWR. How long is the trailer? That would be the other concern.

JCooper 01-28-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton6001 (Post 3262611)
As discussed in many other threads, the total weight of the trailer is no problem. You need to find out the pin weight (if it is a fifth wheel), or tongue weight (if it is a travel trailer). You need to take that number plus the weight of everyone and everything that you plan to have in your truck. That total needs to be less than or equal to the payload rating of the truck (sticker on drivers door).

I kinda disagree with this.... This is true for payload capacity (GVWR-curb weight=payload). Payload includes passengers, cargo, and sometimes even fuel. However, travel trailer campers (not 5th wheel) are usually towed with a weight distribution hitch which minimizes tongue weight of the trailer. These hitches are necessary for campers as large as 28' because they also enable the use of a sway bar. This makes the tongue weight of campers virtually impossible to measure by distributing tongue weight back to the trailers frame when set correctly.

Most trailer dealers will have the weight rating info of specific vehicles as to advise customers for above all, safety and liability purposes. This "trailer tow capacity" info can also be found in your OWNERS MANUAL.

There are other acronyms to consider such as rear axle weight rating.... but stick to your manual's chart for trailers. If still confused, stop at a camper dealership and go fake shopping to get a better idea. Slide-out features on campers add a lot of extra weight.

Milton6001 01-28-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JCooper (Post 3262705)
I kinda disagree with this.... This is true for payload capacity (GVWR-curb weight=payload). Payload includes passengers, cargo, and sometimes even fuel. However, travel trailer campers (not 5th wheel) are usually towed with a weight distribution hitch which minimizes tongue weight of the trailer. These hitches are necessary for campers as large as 28' because they also enable the use of a sway bar. This makes the tongue weight of campers virtually impossible to measure by distributing tongue weight back to the trailers frame when set correctly.

Most trailer dealers will have the weight rating info of specific vehicles as to advise customers for above all, safety and liability purposes. This "trailer tow capacity" info can also be found in your OWNERS MANUAL.

There are other acronyms to consider such as rear axle weight rating.... but stick to your manual's chart for trailers. If still confused, stop at a camper dealership and go fake shopping to get a better idea. Slide-out features on campers add a lot of extra weight.

I agree that you could get away with more if using a weight distribution hitch. Many people don't, but it does buy you some added tongue weight if you have it.

smurfs_of_war 01-28-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Grod205 (Post 3262354)
Sorry to ask another question thats probably been anwsered like ten times over but these acronyms have me confused? Anyway, here soon enough, not sure exactly when, we are trying to get into a camper. Anyway, we are thinking about a cougar xlite 28rbs which i believe has a dry weight of 6338 (could be wrong). Lets just say for numbers sake i add 1000 pounds to it so 7338. I guess the question is can my truck pull it? I think i can but the acronyms and numbers are starting to confuse me. Any way i have a 2013 platinum with max trailer package, gvwr 7650, 3.73, ecoboost. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks.

Hey man, rather than get this simple question and whip it into a casserole of "who's right or wrong", just post the number on the yellow payload sticker from inside your door pillar. If you do that, this can be as easy as yes or no, and what direction you need to go from here.

JCooper 01-28-2014 10:56 PM

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...rv&tt_f150.pdf

See the above link to check your vehicle. The GCWR (gross combination weight rating) listed in the chart is also described and only used as an acronym for trailer towing. I can see by the chart that your truck should be ok for just over 9,000lb trailer, so you should be more than fine with the trailer you want.

**** just to clarify...the weight distribution hitch does NOT allow you to exceed you trailer weight rating. It only levels your truck while towing and puts more weight back onto the trailer which will greatly reduce "sway" and improve handling.


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