shaunm

I have a 2013 ecoboost max tow package do you think it's possible to put a 800 lb ATV in the box and tow a 6000 lb trailer behind with a load distribution hitch?

Farmboy2012

I would have no trouble doing that with my 5.0, but I'm sure somebody will have a problem with it.

smurfs_of_war

Recurring theme?

smurfs_of_war

Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes but you might possibly be "overloaded" on the F150 depending on trim level/ available payload. If you wait long enough, I can already hear the keys being punched on the calculators... somebody will be along to give you the book.

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

I think with your Max Tow pkg that you shouldn't have any problem!

What's the payload capacity posted on the tire pressure sticker on your door? (It will say "weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxx lbs")

If it's 1800 or better then you can stay below the rated weight limits of your truck.

800 lb ATV, 100 lb hitch, 720 lb tongue weight (12% of your loaded trailer weight) equals 1620 lbs. that leaves 180 lbs before you reach your truck's GVWR.

So....if your payload capacity is 1800 lbs, and you weigh less than 180, you're good to go!!

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Buck50HD

The rear axle will probably be max'd or overloaded, even if you manage to squeeze under the GVWR. It could be worse. You could have a 5-lug RAM 1500.

smokeywren

Sure, it's possible. That twin-turbo EcoBoost engine with the 3.73 axle ratio of the max tow package will pull a mountain. But 800 pounds ATV plus 720 pounds tongue weight = 1,520 pounds of weight before you add people and stuff in the pickup. The properly-adjusted weight-distributing (WD) hitch will redistribute about 140 pounds of that tongue weight back to the trailer axles, but that still leaves a net payload of 1,380 pounds, not counting people and other stuff you haul in the pickup. Add 400 pounds of driver, passenger, and minimum stuff in the F-150 and you're at 1,780 pounds of payload. So you'll probably be overloaded over the GVWR of your F-150. What is the payload capacity of your F-150 per the sticker in the driver's doorframe?

The average tongue weight of a tandem-axle trailer is 12.5% of trailer weight. So if that 6,000 pounds is the actual weight of the wet and loaded trailer and not the dry weight, then by careful loading of the trailer you can keep the tongue weight down to about 12%, or the 720 pounds I used in the above analysis.

As a minimum, you'll need air bags in the rear suspension to offset some of the squat the overloaded condition will have on your truck. Don't even think about towing at night without air bags (or some form of beefed-up rear suspension), because your headlights will blind oncoming traffic.

What to do if you want to haul the ATV, tow that trailer, and not be overloaded? You can drastically reduce the hitch weight that is payload on your F-150 by using a TrailerToad to handle most of the hitch weight. So instead of 720 pounds hitch weight you'd have only about 100 pounds hitch weight. The rest of the hitch weight in on the TrailerToad. New TrailerToads cost about $3,300, but you can find used ones for about $2,000. In the following link, the Trailer Toad is touted for use behind a motorhome dragging a cargo trailer. But they work just as well behind a pickup dragging a travel trailer.
http://www.trailertoad.com/id80.html

smurfs_of_war

Front axle on my F150 was 3750, rear was 3850. Both axles on the Ram are rated to 3900. All 4 5 lug 20" wheels are rated higher than the 6 lug 18" wheels I had on my F150.

Off topic, just wanted to point out that more is not necessarily better. The axles on the newer F150s compared to my '10 F150 are identical (excluding the HD package) so there is fuzzy math going on. The actual axle and housing as well as the internals are typically rated much higher than the GAWR as a single component but become limited by the weaker link like suspension and tires.

nihilus

Only if you have a supercab and not a "hockey dad" supercrew. :p