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Old 04-08-2014, 05:30 PM   #31
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I have had the Reese dual cam and it worked ok, but still had some sway on the interstate when passing or being passed. About four years ago I sprung for a Hensley Arrow. It was big bucks but money well spent in my opinion. No sway what so ever, no matter what.
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i would love to try one of those high end hitches like the hensley. I'm sure they must be awesome for that price.
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i would love to try one of those high end hitches like the hensley. I'm sure they must be awesome for that price.
Ehhhhhh... I'm not convinced, and I own one!
  • Is it fantastic, sure.
  • Does it "eliminate sway", yes in the traditional sense.
  • Does this amazing product still come with it's share of challenges, of course!
  • Is it worth the hefty $2k price tag, jury is still out for sure!

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Ehhhhhh... I'm not convinced, and I own one!
  • Is it fantastic, sure.
  • Does it "eliminate sway", yes in the traditional sense.
  • Does this amazing product still come with it's share of challenges, of course!
  • Is it worth the hefty $2k price tag, jury is still out for sure!

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it looks so complex like you potentially have a lot to adjust. so you don't have a ball on your shank.stinger then?


on a side note, When it comes to sway, I'm convinced the extreme majority of sway comes from an improperly loaded trailer and some people use sway control as a band aide. still like to try one of those, but i'm pretty happy with either the dual cam or equalizer. i would also like to try the anderson too but I've heard on the airstream forums that a few people using them have had the coupler in the tongue get forced open with the stress it puts on the coupler. there were a few people, but every pic they posted was of an older trailer and the tongues didn't look in great shape to begin with but i doubt trailer manufacturer's are designing the tongue and couplers for that type of constant force. they are super light weight though and seem way easier to dial in.
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on a side note, When it comes to sway, I'm convinced the extreme majority of sway comes from an improperly loaded trailer and some people use sway control as a band aide.
That's probably true in a number of cases. But assuming a proper setup, what are the other factors producing sway? I believe the majority of sway comes from the length of an enclosed trailer combined with frontal area and overall exposure to wind shear. Meaning the bigger and longer the enclosed trailer, the more prone to adverse affect from wind shear. Whether that shear comes from cross winds, or air pressure displaced by passing big rigs, or change in frontal area while navigating a corner. It's these examples where the ProPride and Hensley pivot hitches really excel over that of friction based systems.

However with the ProPride setup (can't comment on Hensley) many users seem to think it's the next best thing since sliced bread. It does eliminate traditional sway as I described above, but it's still prone to movement in those situations. I think of it as the difference between direct sway and "indirect" sway. With the ProPride, the pivot point design prohibits traditional direct sway, a cross-wind for example, from moving the trailer separate from the tow vehicle since the two are more interlocked and resistant to tail movement. However instead that cross wind will now push both the trailer AND the tow vehicle as a single unit. Granted it's easier to course correct the TV getting pushed around by a cross-wind then to try and compensate for traditional trailer sway in the same situation. But to my point; the ProPride hitch doesn't completely do away with trailer movement.
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I completely agree with your points there, but the propride sway elimination eliminates the porpoising effect where sway creates a situation where a trailer and truck are moving in opposite directions by having the entire length of truck/trailer act as a single unit. Sway is not necessarily a huge problem if the truck and trailer are pointed in the same direction throughout (semi truck in front of you excused), Equal-i-zer/Reese accomplishes this with friction, the ProPride/Hensley (same hitch) do it by virtually changing the pivot point between truck/trailer to the fixed rear axle of the truck (no turning ability). That in itself corrects a lot of issues, even IF all of that unit was pushed laterally by wind you're likely only correcting for lateral movement of the entire train vs. individual units (truck/trailer) if I understand my physics. Basically backing up your argument with my reasoning, I would think the complete absence of trailer movement would lead to truck instability (has to be a bad thing)? The force has to go somewhere....

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That's probably true in a number of cases. But assuming a proper setup, what are the other factors producing sway? I believe the majority of sway comes from the length of an enclosed trailer combined with frontal area and overall exposure to wind shear. Meaning the bigger and longer the enclosed trailer, the more prone to adverse affect from wind shear. Whether that shear comes from cross winds, or air pressure displaced by passing big rigs, or change in frontal area while navigating a corner. It's these examples where the ProPride and Hensley pivot hitches really excel over that of friction based systems.

However with the ProPride setup (can't comment on Hensley) many users seem to think it's the next best thing since sliced bread. It does eliminate traditional sway as I described above, but it's still prone to movement in those situations. I think of it as the difference between direct sway and "indirect" sway. With the ProPride, the pivot point design prohibits traditional direct sway, a cross-wind for example, from moving the trailer separate from the tow vehicle since the two are more interlocked and resistant to tail movement. However instead that cross wind will now push both the trailer AND the tow vehicle as a single unit. Granted it's easier to course correct the TV getting pushed around by a cross-wind then to try and compensate for traditional trailer sway in the same situation. But to my point; the ProPride hitch doesn't completely do away with trailer movement.
this makes me want to try these high end hitches more to understand the difference in feel... when i have cross winds or semi's going by, with either the dual cam or the equalizer, my truck and trailer shift, but it feels like it shifts as one unit like your describing the propride. the new jayco i have is both taller and longer than anything I've ever towed with a 1/2 ton or towed bumper pull at 29 ft long (not sure how high but it looks at least 2-3 foot taller than my truck and the frame of the trailer is 24 inches from the ground) and i certainly notice wind moves me around more and head winds make my truck feel like I'm trying to tow double the weight. I don't have tons of towing experience but i don't think it would be fair to cal me a newbe... but this makes me wonder if I actually am experiencing some sway and I'm either comfortable with it or not sensitive enough to notice it which is kind of scary.
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Also, how do you dial in the amount of weight distribution with the equalizer? I'm assuming you have to use the tongue jack to raise the trailer nose enough to attach the spring bars to the trailer mounts? Then lowering the trailer tongue jack pre-loads the spring bars?
The key to making the Equal-I-zer hitch work the best is to make sure and shim the ball mount so that it is slopping down towards the trailer. So it might look like the ball is not level and in reality it isn't, but the downward angle is what pre loads the sway bars which is why you connect the trailer to the ball and then use the trailer jack to raise the truck and the trailer together so the bars can slide into place.
I absolutely love this setup. I will never buy a chain WDH or anything inferior to the 4 point Equalizer brand again! I love this hitch!
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I have a 30 foot TT that I pull with a F350 Diesel. I use the Equal-i-zer hitch and love it! The trailer weighs in at 6k dry weight. The Equalizer keeps the sway down from high winds etc. I feel much safer with it than without it.

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I like my Reese Dual Cam, no sway on the hwy. I think I got, basically, a size larger than I needed based on GTW, but, for a one time moderate price, it works.
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