cwalker2731

Folks, I am also considering this Jayco TT option. Could you please offer your opinion on towing limits?

Here is what I have:

- 2013 F150 FX4, Ecoboost, 3.55, 5.5' bed (not w/ extended towing)
- GCWR: 15,500
- GVWR: 7,200
- Base Curb Weight: Approx 5,615
- Max Loaded Trailer Weight: 9,600
- Max Payload (B-Pillar): 1151 (FX4 Appearance Package - lots of options)

I am considering the following TT:
- 2013 Jayco White Hawk, 30' and change
- Hitch Weight: 630
- Empty Weight: 5855 (actual weight off of yellow sticker)
- Will use Equalizer hitch (will this effectively "reduce" hitch weight by 20%?)

Do you agree this would tow without problems, assuming passengers are limited to my wife (130) and myself (200)?

Many thanks!

Chris

Norotso

I don't think you would enjoy the pull…. You can always, should be allowed to take the TT on a test pull

93Cobra#2771

iTrader: (2)

Tongue weight will be close when loaded, but otherwise you are fine. 30' is a good size. Invest in a good hitch setup like you mentioned, or a Reese dual cam and you will be fine.

smokeywren

Same answer I gave you in your other thread.

Ignore dry weights. They are meaningless.

What is the GVWR of the trailer?

What is the unused available net payload capacity of the wet and loaded pickup? (Weight of the wet and loaded pickup subtracted from the GVWR of the pickup.)

Without those numbers, you cannot estimate how much you'll be overloaded.

93Cobra#2771

iTrader: (2)

Smokey - I'm assuming he is looking at a new TT. The yellow sticker lists the weight if the TT as it goes out the for for delivery. They are very accurate. I scaled mine as soon as I took delivery and it was actually a bit lighter than the yellow sticker.

So he needs to allow for his gear and filling the propane tanks.

smokeywren

That's playing games. The result will often be an overloaded RVer. I explained how to do it right in his other thread.

BIGJIM54

this is my take on it...the 150 is a great truck, i have owned a few, and it will pull the weight, but when u are at the upper end of the limits, why take a chance with your and the passengers life, let alone others in other cars, just get a truck, 250 or 350, and be safe?? it might pull it good a 100 times, but all it takes is once and its all over...have driven a tractor trailer for 30 years and have seen a lot of 1/2 ton pick ups with to much trailer twisted up along the roads...just think about it...

msgtord

The gvwr on that trailer is 8200. Gcwr is 15500 leaving 7300 for the truck.

smurfs_of_war

If the GVWR on that TT is 8200, the tongue weight alone will put you over payload using the max calculations and the payload rating you provided in your other thread. To me, overloading the payload by a few hundred is not a deal breaker- it happens. Realistically that's a just an extra, large man in the box. But you're approaching the limits on too many things for me to be comfortable. Receiver handling capacity, GCWR, payload, maximum towing cap and very likely your RGAWR. You would be pushing your truck and your nerves to the limits IMHO. Add on to that a 34' *** wagging around behind you and catching every little wind gust- you have a perfect recipe for a truck upgrade or a disaster, which ever comes first.

Just for figures, my TT is 26' with a GVWR of 5900. I was banging on the payload door with my F150. In my Ram now, I am over by a couple hundred but I am only at 60% of my tow cap ( 9600 for the F150 and 9900 for the Ram) and still under my axle ratings and still 3000lbs under my GCWR. The F150 pulled ok, the Ram pulls like a train, but that's beside the point. To me, that is as much trailer as I would put behind a half ton. I just moved ours from its winter home to another storage area and have no sway issues or any odd feelings, but I also have a TT that looks like a port-a-potty compared to the one you're looking at.

Smokeywren is right, and his advice is sound as usual. I would take it. Go smaller. Sometimes he comes across as a grumpy ol' man with 50 years towing experience but you have to get passed that. He really is trying to help

Boulevard

I absolutely WOULD NOT go any smaller. The truck is rated to tow a 9200 pound tt with a 150 pound driver so you aren't even close with a 6000 pound trailer and 350 pounds in people. Add 500 pounds for tanks and junk and its 7000 pounds, maybe, which is still 2200 pounds short of what the truck will do. The hitch weight is unknown since you will be using a load distributing hitch but count on taking at least 250 pounds off of that 630. I tow a 6000 pound tt with 700 pounds in people using a 5.0 NO SWEAT. Top speed to date is a sustained 80 mph....solid as a rock. My next trailer will be around 30 feet, 7000 pounds dry with the same 700 pounds in people. Absolute BS that you cannot pull that trailer safely but do not scrimp on quality hitching and if you are a rookie that for heaven's sake take it easy and learn the ropes a little. As for hitching I like and use the Blue Ox Sway Pro with 15,000 pound bars. Use good LT rated tires and not the P rated **** that the truck came with (I'm using 20" rims with stock tires which seem to work ok...for now). Once again my friend, absolute BS that you cannot pull that trailer safely.