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Old 04-01-2014, 07:46 PM
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I don't think you would be above 800-900lb tongue weight loaded if you pack the trailer close to the back and keep tongue weight at 12%. How heavy will you be packing? How many people in the truck?
My max tow payload is 1700lbs and I'm good with me my wife, 3 kids, and a 30' trailer with 6800lb dry weight. The truck also handles it amazing! I also have a chevy 2500 and the f150 ecoboost feels a bit better with this weight behind it.
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Originally Posted by Wannafbody
I just find it odd that a truck that can tow 10,000# of weight can only handle 500# of hitch weight. Why?
You should be more surprised at the high amount that it can tow than the low payload. half ton trucks are not known to be able to carry a lot of weight. They do have some powerful engines available that can tow a lot of weight and offer some packages to handle a bit more.
When I bought my work truck in 2005, I looked at the chevy 1500 but after putting a utility body on it I wouldn't have been able to put anything else in the truck. Ended up with a 2500.
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I know a guy who trailers a 14,000lbs excavator on a heavy trailer with a 1/2 ton v8 up and down the catskill mountains. He's never had a problem. I think he's out of his mind but IMHO i also think the ratings are lower than these trucks can actually take.
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Originally Posted by 13seth
I don't think you would be above 800-900lb tongue weight loaded if you pack the trailer close to the back and keep tongue weight at 12%. How heavy will you be packing? How many people in the truck?
My max tow payload is 1700lbs and I'm good with me my wife, 3 kids, and a 30' trailer with 6800lb dry weight. The truck also handles it amazing! I also have a chevy 2500 and the f150 ecoboost feels a bit better with this weight behind it.
First, thanks everyone for your responses and opinions. In answer to your question:
Probably just me and the GF, and she's skinny, and I would probably purposely travel light. Buy food and stuff at the nearest town.
The last thing I want is a white knuckle drive. Most importantly I would
like to be safe, second I would like to be legal. I am thinking now that we can find something smaller, easier to maneuver and It will be easier to relax.
Old 04-01-2014, 08:55 PM
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Smaller is better if that's all you need. Easier to get around and you wont have to think about what your packing as much. Your truck will handle a smaller trailer with ease!
I can't wait to tow our trailer again, only towed it about 60 miles so far. Good luck finding a nice trailer and having some enjoyable weekends this summer!
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Originally Posted by custm2500
Make sure to follow the book. You can not have 1 pound over the ford recommended weights or you will kill at least 10 people in your travels!!!!

I(and most of the world) would put 7600 lbs. behind any 1/2 ton that is in good condition! make sure the truck brakes are in good shape and you have a brake controller and you will be just fine. If you want you can use a magic WDH hitch and it would your best bet to add some helper bags so the rear of the truck isn't sagging to the ground. If you do those few things you will be able to tow that trailer all day long with no added issues other then being a ford.

I have said it in a few threads around here if everyone followed your guidelines you would not see very many campers! Not everyone wants to drive and pay for a 2500/250 or 3500/350 so that the towing pamphlet tells them it is ok. Event your ford will do just fine for many many miles with this camper behind it!

Hate on this answer all you want but this is the real world answer! Millions and millions of people operate like I am telling you to do every day. Lots of them are WAY more overloaded then you looking at.
OP, do yourself a favor and ignore anything this guy says. He's proven multiple times that he has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to towing. He gives "advice" that could end up getting people hurt or worse
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Originally Posted by MikeGel
I know a guy who trailers a 14,000lbs excavator on a heavy trailer with a 1/2 ton v8 up and down the catskill mountains. He's never had a problem. I think he's out of his mind but IMHO i also think the ratings are lower than these trucks can actually take.
I have a friend who is an engineer and he said that there are safety margins engineered into the ratings-most likely underrated by about 25%.
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Originally Posted by Wannafbody
I have a friend who is an engineer and he said that there are safety margins engineered into the ratings-most likely underrated by about 25%.
Yeah i figured it would be something like that. A little safer that way. Can't say i disagree
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Originally Posted by Wannafbody
I just find it odd that a truck that can tow 10,000# of weight can only handle 500# of hitch weight. Why?
Truck design, chassis design, suspension design, and compromise between a nice ride and hauling capacity.

The "tow rating" is based on GCWR (pulling power) and ignores GVWR (hauling capacity).

GCWR is based on the power and torque of the drivetrain, including engine, tranny, and differential ratio, along with the capacity of cooling components such as radiator, engine oil cooler, and tranny cooler that gets rid of the heat of heavy towing.

GVWR is based on the strength and weight capacity of the suspension, tires, wheels and frame, as well as the capacity of the brake system to bring things to a screeching halt when required.

When you find a truck that can tow 10,000# of weight but can only handle 500# of hitch weight, the owner probably wanted a go-fast truck for showing off on Saturday night, with no thought as to hauling capacity. Suspension is a weak sister, designed for a nice ride and not for hauling a heavy load. But because of high horsepower and torque and a numerically high axle ratio, that pickup can win a drag race, but can't haul a full cab of passengers without exceeding the GVWR of the truck.
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Originally Posted by Wannafbody
I just find it odd that a truck that can tow 10,000# of weight can only handle 500# of hitch weight. Why?

Because the springs are meant for ride not load handling. That is what air bags are for. Best of both worlds. Stock ride empty and same ride when loaded.


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