Another "am I OK w/o HD payload thread" + TT recommendations?
02-16-2016, 10:07 PM
#11
Senior Member
Life is all about choices; you found one of the "other" tough ones. I had a bad Dodge experience a few years back so your choice below is easy for me despite the lower payload. I sure do think about the payload issues but the other 90% usage I insist on goodies and the EB kick! Good luck.
heres the truth.
I could get a ram 2500 cummins for 8 grand more than a comparably-equipped f150 eco lariat.
The ride would be as good. I mean it. The 2500 new rams have amazing suspensions, it rides better than a half ton from late-2000's. It would hold it's resale value a lot better too.
But I am one of those guys who doesn't like diesels for DD. In fact I dislike them. Throttle response of the 3.5 eco vs cummins is simply pathetic. Cummins you're struggling to keep up with traffic, eco you're in a borderline sports car. 90% of my daily driving is unloaded.
...and, engine aside, fords are built better IMO.
Hence my dilemma.
Perhaps the adult move is to just pay more for a cummins, hate the fact that I don't have AWD option/it sucks in light snow on highways compared to f150 which is half my driving, and take pleasure in the fact that it's a beast with better resale value?
Take pleasure in the fact that the only reason I own a truck instead of a porsche is hunting and I can load 4 guys, get a bonus and upgrade my hunting trailer and never worry about the payload in my truck?
I could get a ram 2500 cummins for 8 grand more than a comparably-equipped f150 eco lariat.
The ride would be as good. I mean it. The 2500 new rams have amazing suspensions, it rides better than a half ton from late-2000's. It would hold it's resale value a lot better too.
But I am one of those guys who doesn't like diesels for DD. In fact I dislike them. Throttle response of the 3.5 eco vs cummins is simply pathetic. Cummins you're struggling to keep up with traffic, eco you're in a borderline sports car. 90% of my daily driving is unloaded.
...and, engine aside, fords are built better IMO.
Hence my dilemma.
Perhaps the adult move is to just pay more for a cummins, hate the fact that I don't have AWD option/it sucks in light snow on highways compared to f150 which is half my driving, and take pleasure in the fact that it's a beast with better resale value?
Take pleasure in the fact that the only reason I own a truck instead of a porsche is hunting and I can load 4 guys, get a bonus and upgrade my hunting trailer and never worry about the payload in my truck?
02-17-2016, 08:23 AM
#13
Senior Member
Unfortunately, the recommendation to go with a Max Tow truck is off base as Max Tow does not change payload (or really GVWR) for the 2015+ trucks as it did for the previous gen.
Should be able to find an XLT w/302a with a payload around 1800# so long as you don't need the massive moon roof.
02-17-2016, 09:43 AM
#14
Don't kid yourself. I had a loaded up 2014 Ram 2500, the ride is nowhere near as nice as the Eco. Its a different beast, both serve their purpose but the ride is absolutely not the same.
There are a lot of TTs that will well work with what you are looking at. I would NOT jump to a 2500 just for the purpose of towing a 23-25 ft trailer.
There are a lot of TTs that will well work with what you are looking at. I would NOT jump to a 2500 just for the purpose of towing a 23-25 ft trailer.
02-17-2016, 01:42 PM
#15
Senior Member
An ecoboost with a payload of 1800lbs would be able to handle a 25 foot trailer easily.
the trailer would weigh 7000lbs tops fully loaded with everything you'd ever bring. load all your tools, chairs, etc into the trailer and leave your truck bed empty if you have to. tongue weight would be in the 900-1000lb range which leaves you 800lbs for people and stuff in the cab. that's a lot of stuff. and unless you have 4 200lb passengers, you should be good to go.
the trailer would weigh 7000lbs tops fully loaded with everything you'd ever bring. load all your tools, chairs, etc into the trailer and leave your truck bed empty if you have to. tongue weight would be in the 900-1000lb range which leaves you 800lbs for people and stuff in the cab. that's a lot of stuff. and unless you have 4 200lb passengers, you should be good to go.
02-17-2016, 02:13 PM
#16
Ford Redneck
I almost waited for the Max payload option for my truck to be available (june-july) but opted to order the standard payload option. I know air bags don't alter your 'legal' payload numbers but offer you the advantage of carrying more and adjusting the air springs to comfort and performance. Firestone and Ride-Rite make great kits easy to install. my TT is 4700 lbs dry with 500 lb tongue ATV in the back of my 04 f150 screw, air bags make all the difference. This years hunting trip with my 16 SCAB will try out the new air bag system I orderd
04-25-2016, 01:47 PM
#17
There are some very nice lightweight travel trailers out there. Your truck will handle one of them just fine. My bird dog and I went all over upland country in a small Arctic Fox for many seasons pulled by one like you are talking about. For a Pickup camper, heavy travel trailer, or fifth wheel get the hd pkg but for a smaller lw tt you should be good to go. The trailer you tow is just as important a consideration as the truck.
04-25-2016, 02:31 PM
#18
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I pulled a 22H which I think is now only in the Nash Line. For the tongue weight of a 25W I believe you would need the HD Payload pkg. The Arctic Fox are some great campers. Another good line to look at that are similar are the ones made by Outdoors RV manufacturing. I saw a Creekside I liked as well as the Arctic Fox.
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04-25-2016, 08:08 PM
#19
Most of the 2015+ supercrews I have seen have at least 1700 lbs of payload generally. That is usually lariats or optioned XLT's that I have looked at so they are at a disadvantage due to options.
Since the hitches on the 2015+ trucks are a max 1220 lb tongue weights, you should have about 500 lbs of cargo/people/pets left over even if you max the tongue weight out.
Since the hitches on the 2015+ trucks are a max 1220 lb tongue weights, you should have about 500 lbs of cargo/people/pets left over even if you max the tongue weight out.
04-26-2016, 09:39 AM
#20
Senior Member
My '13 supercrew XTR has a payload of 1,754 lbs. Not sure where all this weight-savings with the new aluminum bodies went
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